<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7998609517132732266</id><updated>2011-04-21T19:23:14.412-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Eclipse vs. Does litigation</title><subtitle type='html'>I created this blog to have a place to post some documents and other information about &lt;i&gt;Eclipse Aviation Corporation vs. John Doe et al.&lt;/i&gt; (No. D-202-CV-2008-02624, New Mexico District Court, and No. 1-08-CV-110380, California Superior Court, Santa Clara County), and other cases that may be of interest to people following the Eclipse case.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Al Petrofsky</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00521212742095753420</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>8</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7998609517132732266.post-5611772239900018445</id><published>2008-08-02T11:43:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-08-02T11:43:45.605-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Case dismissed</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;By a stipulated order filed on Wednesday, July 30, 2008, the
complaint was dismissed in &lt;i&gt;Eclipse Aviation Corporation v. John Doe
et al.&lt;/i&gt;, No. D-202-CV-2008-02624, New Mexico Second Judicial
District Court.

&lt;p&gt;I didn't know this when I wrote &lt;a
href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/07/june-6-hearing-notes-and-transcript.html"&gt;my
last article&lt;/a&gt;, on Thursday morning, July 31.  There's often a delay
of one to three business days before things show up on the &lt;a
href="http://www.nmcourts.gov/caselookup"&gt;New Mexico case information
website&lt;/a&gt;, and the following item was just added on Friday evening:
"7/30/2008 FILING STIPULATED ORDER OF DISMISSAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE".  I
don't yet have a copy of the order, but see &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-docket-as-of-2008-08-01.pdf"&gt;the
current docket listing&lt;/a&gt; (and cf. the &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-docket-as-of-2008-07-31.pdf"&gt;docket
listing as of July 31&lt;/a&gt;).


&lt;p&gt;On Thursday, with the underlying case having been closed, the
subpoena in California had become invalid, and the motion to quash it
was moot.  Accordingly, the motion was taken off the hearing calendar,
thus bringing the California proceeding to a close as well (and also
mooting &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-25-personal-recording-request.pdf"&gt;my
pending request&lt;/a&gt; for permission to record the hearing).  See the &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-31-tentative-ruling.pdf"&gt;tentative
ruling that was posted on Thursday afternoon&lt;/a&gt; for a written record
of the matter being taken off-calendar.  A slightly more definitive
(but probably no more informative) minute order should be filed next
week.

&lt;p&gt;Because no answer to the complaint had been filed, I believe
Eclipse could have dismissed its complaint by simply filing a notice
of dismissal, per &lt;a
href="http://www.conwaygreene.com/nmsu/lpext.dll/nmsu2008july/23e9d/23ec1/24124/24148?f=templates&amp;amp;fn=document-frame.htm&amp;amp;2.0"&gt;Rule
1-041&lt;/a&gt;(A)(1)(a) NMRA.  The fact that the parties bothered with a
stipulated dismissal order may indicate that the order contains some
additional provisions beyond a simple dismissal without prejudice.

&lt;p&gt;Sometime in the next couple weeks, I expect to obtain and post here
most of the court documents that I do not yet have, including the
original complaint (filed March 18), Eclipse's and the Does'
supplemental papers on the motion to quash (filed July 21 and July
25), the Does' motion to dismiss (filed July 22), and the stipulated
dismissal order (filed July 30).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7998609517132732266-5611772239900018445?l=eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default/5611772239900018445'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default/5611772239900018445'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/08/case-dismissed.html' title='Case dismissed'/><author><name>Al Petrofsky</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00521212742095753420</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7998609517132732266.post-647079168173833295</id><published>2008-07-31T11:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-08-01T10:32:37.693-07:00</updated><title type='text'>June 6 hearing notes and transcript excerpts</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;Below are some notes &amp;mdash; including several excerpts from the
official transcript &amp;mdash; about the June 6, 2008 hearing before
Judge Manoukian on the John Does' motion to quash &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-subpoena.pdf"&gt;the
subpoena that was issued to Google&lt;/a&gt; in &lt;i&gt;Eclipse Aviation
Corp. v. John Doe, et al.&lt;/i&gt;, No. 1-08-CV-110380 (Cal. Superior Ct.,
Santa Clara Cty.).

&lt;p&gt;First, however, I will discuss why this post is not what I had hoped
it would be.  


&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Table of Contents&lt;/b&gt;:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-07-31-section-1"&gt;The court's refusal to allow a transcript or recording to be published&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-07-31-section-2"&gt;The motion papers&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-07-31-section-3"&gt;The hearing itself&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-07-31-section-3.1"&gt;Opening comments about Krinsky&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-07-31-section-3.2"&gt;Free speech in general&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-07-31-section-3.3"&gt;Absence of Complaint&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-07-31-section-3.4"&gt;Lack of reply to Eclipse's evidence&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-07-31-section-3.5"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;h4 id="post-2008-07-31-section-1"&gt;The court's refusal to allow a transcript or recording to be
published&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I normally write posts here in the following form:

&lt;ol&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Here are some source documents.

&lt;li&gt;Here are some notes about them, with some references to other
sources.

&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The idea is that the reader might find my notes to be a useful
supplement to &amp;mdash; but absolutely &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; a replacement for

&amp;mdash; reading the source documents himself.

&lt;p&gt;I would like to write this post in a similar form, namely: "Here is
the official transcript of the hearing, and here are some notes", or,
"Here is an audio recording of the hearing, and here are some notes".
Most courts, including California's appellate courts and all federal
courts (both trial and appellate) make it easy to do one or the other.
That is, for any hearings that were open to the public, the courts
make either transcripts or audio recordings available, and any member
of the public can simply purchase one and post it on the internet.

&lt;p&gt;In California trial courts, however, there is generally no easy way
to publish a complete record of what was said at an open hearing.  I
tried asking for permission to make my own sound recording and publish
it.  (I actually made two distinct types of recording requests; see my
&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-06-04-media-reply.pdf"&gt;June
4 letter&lt;/a&gt; for details.) Judge Manoukian denied my requests.  His
only comment was this:


&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Reporter has copies of the transcript that can be obtained.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 2:21-22).  That statement is certainly correct, and
I have now obtained a copy of the official transcript from the court
reporter.  However, for the reasons I had discussed in &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-06-04-media-reply.pdf"&gt;my
June 4 letter to the Court&lt;/a&gt;, I am not able to post it here, and
Judge Manoukian's rulings have left me with no legal way to provide a
complete and spin-free account of what was said at the hearing.

&lt;p&gt;It has long been recognized that transcripts do not merit copyright
protection.  See &lt;a
href="http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F2/475/565"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Lipman
v. Commonwealth of Massachusetts&lt;/i&gt;, 475 F.2d 565&lt;/a&gt; (1st Cir. 1973)
("since a transcript is a verbatim recording &amp;hellip there can be no
originality in the reporter's product") and &lt;i&gt;Nimmer on Copyright&lt;/i&gt;

&amp;sect;5.06 ("insofar as the transcript is an accurate statement of
the testimony of others, the court reporter can claim no originality
in the work").  Nevertheless, transcripts from proceedings in
California courts are given a sort of pseudo-copyright protection:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Any court, party, or person who has purchased a transcript may,
without paying a further fee to the reporter, reproduce a copy or
portion thereof as an exhibit pursuant to court order or rule, or for
internal use, but shall not otherwise provide or sell a copy or copies
to any other party or person.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;


&lt;p&gt;(&lt;a
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=gov&amp;amp;group=69001-70000&amp;amp;file=69941-69958"&gt;Cal.
Gov. Code &amp;sect;69954(d)&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a
href="http://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/93-94/bill/asm/ab_1901-1950/ab_1929_bill_931011_chaptered"&gt;Stats. 1993
Ch. 1016&lt;/a&gt; &amp;sect;2).  I consider this statute to be both: (1) bad
policy; and (2) constitutionally questionable, at best.  However, I
haven't yet had the gumption to either: (1) bring about the repeal of
the statute by successfully lobbying the legislature or getting a
ballot initiative passed; or (2) (the less unlikely option) ask a
court to strike down the law.

&lt;p&gt;Fortunately, in many instances it is still possible to publish a
transcript if the case has been appealed.  As I discussed at the end
of &lt;a
href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/05/transcripts-of-hb-fuller-and-krinsky.html"&gt;my
May 29, 2008 article&lt;/a&gt; (which includes transcripts of the hearings
before Judge Manoukian in

&lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller v. Doe&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Krinsky v. Doe&lt;/i&gt;), the law only
prohibits publishing the transcript if you "purchased" your copy, and
in cases that have been appealed, you can usually obtain a copy of the
transcript without purchasing anything.

&lt;p&gt;Until the Eclipse case is appealed (or, until the End of Days, if
no appeal is ever filed), anyone who wants to read the transcript of
the June 6 hearing will probably have to shell out $16.20 and buy his
own copy.  Because I was the first person to order a transcript, I had
to pay the higher price of $81.00, but I don't consider that a
problem.  The problem is the unlimited $16.20/copy "royalty" that
makes it impossible to post the transcript to a public website.  (For
pricing details, see the footnotes in &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-25-personal-recording-request.pdf"&gt;my
July 25 letter&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;p&gt;Judge Manoukian's court reporter, Georgeann Wiles, is particularly
vigilant about transcript piracy: she's the only reporter I've
encountered who puts a notice at the top of every single page of her
transcripts that says, "Copying Prohibited Pursuant to GC 69954(d)".
See &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-06-06-transcript-excerpt.pdf"&gt;this
short excerpt&lt;/a&gt; (containing just the pages with the judge's opening
and closing remarks, which is about as much as I dare reproduce in
full).

&lt;p&gt;California's appellate courts allow anyone to purchase and publish
audio recordings of the courts' public proceedings.  You can find a
recording of the arguments in the &lt;i&gt;Krinsky v. Doe&lt;/i&gt; appeal at the
end of &lt;a
href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/05/transcripts-of-hb-fuller-and-krinsky.html"&gt;my
May 29, 2008 article&lt;/a&gt;.  California's trial courts, however,
normally invest the court reporter with a monopoly over the only
verbatim record of a proceeding.


&lt;p&gt;Many of the proceedings in trial courts, in contrast to appellate
courts, include the testimony of witnesses.  I might see the point of
disallowing audio recordings, in some instances, for the protection of
witnesses (even when the courtroom is open to anyone who wants to
attend and listen in person).  However, for open motion hearings like
this one, where the only sounds heard are the voices of the attorneys
and judges, just like in appellate court proceedings, it seems to me
that the California Superior Court should routinely allow audio
recordings to be published, just like the California Court of Appeal
does.

&lt;p&gt;For the upcoming hearing on Friday, August 1, I again made two
audio recording requests.  The first was for permission, as a news
media agency (as that term is broadly defined in &lt;a href="http://courtinfo.ca.gov/rules/index.cfm?title=one&amp;amp;linkid=rule1_150"&gt;CRC 1.150&lt;/a&gt;(b)(2)), to
make an audio recording that I would be free to publish, per &lt;a href="http://courtinfo.ca.gov/rules/index.cfm?title=one&amp;amp;linkid=rule1_150"&gt;CRC
1.150&lt;/a&gt;(e) (see &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-25-media-request.pdf"&gt;Media
Request dated July 25, 2008&lt;/a&gt;).  Judge Manoukian has already denied
that request, without comment, in &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-29-media-order.pdf"&gt;a
written order entered on July 29&lt;/a&gt;.  I also made a non-news-media
request (a "Personal Recording" request), per &lt;a href="http://courtinfo.ca.gov/rules/index.cfm?title=one&amp;amp;linkid=rule1_150"&gt;CRC 1.150&lt;/a&gt;(d), for
permission to make a "personal notes" audio recording (see &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-25-personal-recording-request.pdf"&gt;my
letter dated July 25&lt;/a&gt;).  I could not publish such an audio
recording, but I could at least use it to create and publish an
unofficial written transcript.  &lt;b&gt;As I noted in &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-25-personal-recording-request.pdf"&gt;the
letter&lt;/a&gt;, both Eclipse and the John Does have explicitly declined to
object to this Personal Recording request, and I thank them for their
cooperation.&lt;/b&gt; It remains to be seen, however, whether Judge
Manoukian will grant the request.



&lt;h4 id="post-2008-07-31-section-2"&gt;The motion papers&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The starting point of the hearing was that the judge and all the
attorneys had read the submitted papers on the motion.  The main
papers were the Does' 6-page &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-07-quash-memo.pdf"&gt;supporting
memorandum&lt;/a&gt;, Eclipse's 13-page &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-quash-opposition.pdf"&gt;opposition
memorandum&lt;/a&gt;, and the &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-21-Raburn-declaration.pdf"&gt;Declaration
of Vern Raburn&lt;/a&gt;.  Also of interest was &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-2008-04-10-commission.pdf"&gt;the
commission from New Mexico Judge Linda M. Vanzi&lt;/a&gt;, which had been
filed in the California court as an exhibit to &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-Storey-declaration.pdf"&gt;Eclipse's
initial filing&lt;/a&gt; here back on April 14.

&lt;p&gt;For some notes on these documents, see &lt;a href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/06/written-submissions-before-first.html"&gt;my previous article&lt;/a&gt;.



&lt;h4 id="post-2008-07-31-section-3"&gt;The hearing itself&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The speakers at the hearing were Judge Socrates Manoukian; attorneys
David Thuma (from New Mexico) and Angela Storey (from California) for
Plaintiff Eclipse Aviation Corp.; and attorney Norman Malinski for the
John Does.  (I, Al Petrofsky, also spoke for about two sentences at
the start of the hearing, regarding my request for permission to make
an audio recording.)

&lt;h5 id="post-2008-07-31-section-3.1"&gt;Opening comments about Krinsky&lt;/h5&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Judge Manoukian started by making several points about the
&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; case, in which the appeals court reversed Judge
Manoukian's denial of another John Doe's motion to quash a subpoena:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MR. PETROFSKY [sic in official transcript; should be "THE COURT"]:
... Okay.  I have a few questions on this.  Extensive reference has
been made to the &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; matter and to the &lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller&lt;/i&gt; matter, both of
which I have intimate knowledge.  And let me point out, I also am
intimately familiar with the &lt;i&gt;O'Grady&lt;/i&gt; case, which was Judge Kleinberg's
case.  I also want to point out four things that the &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; case did
not mention.  A couple of them were addressed in my written order, a
couple.  I just assumed was common knowledge or were common knowledge.


&lt;p&gt;First of all, the &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; case did not mention that I specifically
found that there was some economic damage to Dr. Krinsky because the
e-mails or postings, rather, led to a devaluation of the publicly
traded stock in her company by two-thirds in a period about a month or
two, drove down her stock price 60, 67, 68 percent.

&lt;p&gt;Secondly, &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; did not mention that the commission was signed by a
judge in Florida, and just as &lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller&lt;/i&gt; was, and as was signed in
this case, the commission was signed by Judge Linda Vanzi, V-a-n-z-i,
of the Second Judicial District in New Mexico.

&lt;p&gt;Thirdly, the &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; case did not discuss the well-accepted doctrine
that relevancy of the subject matter does not depend on a legally
sufficient pleading, nor is it restricted to the issues formally
raised in the pleadings, and that relevancy of the subject matter is
determined by the potential as well as the actual issues in the case.
That goes back to at least 1908 in California.

&lt;p&gt;And finally, the epithets in the &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; case include the term
"cockroach." Justice Rushing -- Presiding Justice Rushing has a class,
teaches a class in law and literature, which I've taken twice, and one
of the discussions involves John Joseph Kafka, The Metamorphosis,
which is the book where Gregor Samsa awakes one morning and he's on
his back as a cockroach.  And, actually, the term cockroach was not
probably not what Kafka intended because of an inability to precisely
translate German into English.  What he probably meant was something
of an utterly monstrous vermin beyond contempt.  That's irrelevant for
this purpose.  But that was something I noted.


&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 2:23-4:5)

&lt;p&gt;You can find several documents from the &lt;i&gt;Fuller&lt;/i&gt; and
&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; cases in &lt;a
href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/05/transcripts-of-hb-fuller-and-krinsky.html"&gt;my
May 29 article&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;p&gt;Judge Manoukian expressed his frustration with the &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt;
decision several more times, but he made it clear that he would follow
the precedent anyway:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;... if I follow &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; ... [w]hich I have every intention of doing,
by the way.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 17:2-5)

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Like I said, they left out a lot of stuff that I thought about and
came to conclusions about, and they just didn't talk about it.  But
who am I?  I mean, they've got 95 years of collective judicial
experience.  I've only got 15.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 21:6-10)

&lt;h5 id="post-2008-07-31-section-3.2"&gt;Free speech in general&lt;/h5&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Early in the hearing, Judge Manoukian also expressed some thoughts
on free speech in general:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: Those people want to be able to walk down the street and
not be bothered.  And I suppose if you're a public official, you take
some of that.  And if you're in a business, public, private business
of which there's some controversy, you take part in that, too.  I
mean, the law on that is clear.  But what I'm always confused about is
this belief that, you know, it's a good thing to be vulgar, to be
insulting, to be half-true, to be outright false. That's a good thing.
&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; says, well, obviously nobody really believed that
Dr. Krinsky and her colleagues were cockroaches.  That's true
hyperbole.

&lt;p&gt;MR. MALINSKI: Correct.

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: But what got overlooked there was that a lot of people
did believe it because the publicly traded stock price decreased by
about 68 percent in a one- or two-month period, and if you're
short-selling stock, that's a pretty good gimmick because it's a lot
easier to gin down the price of stock than to gin it up because you
pretend like you have inside information and knowledge about something
where you really don't.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 9:6-25)

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: I believe you.  I think that ignorance is a tool of
suppression.  And that's why it was a public offense to prevent a
black person from learning to read.  Because it was an instrument of
suppression.  If they couldn't read, they couldn't read passes and
read maps to get out of the South or whatever, couldn't read signposts
and so forth.  I'd buy into that a hundred percent.  What I don't buy
in to is that somebody can use that to slander, to commit criminal
acts, to take advantage of somebody's frailty so that a 15-year-old
girl commits suicide because of a belief that she reads on an Internet
posting put on by somebody else's mother meant as a joke.  I think
then that gets pretty serious, and it gets serious when computer
crimes are committed to commit bank robberies, to -- so on and so
forth.  Derail trains.  It was just a joke.  We didn't mean that.
It's a game.  It's their problem for letting us -- not making their
computers hack-proof.  I -- I have some problems with that, but I
believe in free speech.  I think people have a right to say whatever
they want as long as it's not defamatory, criminal, then, you know,
then we need to talk.  And that's what we're doing here.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 11:2-22)

&lt;p&gt;I believe the example of a "15-year-old girl [who] commits suicide
because of a belief that [results from something] she reads on an
Internet posting put on by somebody else's mother meant as a joke" was
a reference to the allegations in &lt;i&gt;U.S.A. v. Lori Drew&lt;/i&gt;,
No. 2:08-cr-582 (C.D. Cal., &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/USA-vs-Drew-1.pdf"&gt;Indictment&lt;/a&gt;

filed May 15, 2008).

&lt;h5 id="post-2008-07-31-section-3.3"&gt;Absence of Complaint&lt;/h5&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The biggest bone of contention at the hearing was Eclipse's failure
to file a copy of its complaint in California, or even to provide a
copy of it to the Does' attorney.  The Complaint was only on file in
New Mexico, where it was under seal.  As I &lt;a
href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/06/written-submissions-before-first.html"&gt;wrote
last month&lt;/a&gt;, "In every subpoena case cited by Eclipse, a copy of
the underlying complaint had been filed &lt;em&gt;in the court of the judge
who had to rule on whether or not to quash the subpoena&lt;/em&gt;, rather
than just having been filed in some court in a completely different
state.  Just as importantly, the complaint was also available to the
other parties, which was necessary for them to be able to adequately
brief the issues for the judge.  See &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Highfields-Capital-vs-Doe-2005-01-18.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Highfields
Capital&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Sony-Music-vs-Does-2004-07-26.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sony
Music&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Apple-Computer-vs-Does-2005-03-11.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Apple
Computer&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-appeal-2007-05-31-unsealing-opinion.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;,

&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/H030767.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/G023316.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Rancho
Publications&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Immunomedics-vs-Doe-2001-07-11.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Immunomedics&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
(all as cited in the Table of Authorities in &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-quash-opposition.pdf"&gt;Eclipse's
brief&lt;/a&gt;)".

&lt;p&gt;Eclipse argued that the lack of a copy of the Complaint was a
trivial matter, because the Complaint contained nothing of any
interest that had not already been disclosed:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MS. STOREY: It's a three- or four-page complaint that says that the
confidentiality agreement, it was broken, it's being posted on the
blogs.  It's exactly what it says in the docket.  It's a breach of
contract and breach of non-disclosure agreement.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 18:6-10)

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MR. THUMA: There's nothing in the Complaint that would cause the
least amount of surprise.  Everything, the gravamen was in our
opposition and in Mr. Rayburn's affidavit.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 27:9-12)

&lt;p&gt;Confusingly, Eclipse also argued that the Complaint, despite being
devoid of even "the least amount of surprise", should not become
available to the public, nor even to the John Does.  The Does'
attorney (Malinski) had no objection to either of those conditions, as
long as the Complaint was provided to him.  Accordingly, Judge
Manoukian ordered Eclipse to produce the Complaint to Malinski on an
attorneys'-eyes-only basis:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT [speaking to Thuma]: You know, he's [Malinski's] a
lawyer.  He's got ethical obligations.  And we have
attorneys'-eyes-only things all the time, and I would tend to be a
little suspicious about a judge ruling against my clients on something
I haven't seen.  You know, show him and, you know, swear him to
secrecy.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 13:11-16)

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MR. THUMA: Your Honor, the reason we filed it under seal in the
first place, we were hoping to get out some discovery before the
discovery kind of disappeared.  And we were hoping to get the --

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: That may have happened by now anyway.

&lt;p&gt;MR. THUMA: It may have.  I agree with you that
today it's much less important and maybe unimportant to have
the Complaint under seal.  That's why it was under seal, and
things happened so quickly that we haven't unsealed it.  But
that's why we filed it under seal.  We were trying to get
some evidence to figure out who these people were before the
evidence disappeared, and we thought, and Judge Vanzi agreed
with us, that it made sense to seal the Complaint in the
effort to do that.


&lt;p&gt;And on the other hand, when we filed our response,
we had tried, and I think successfully, to set out everything
of substance that is alleged in the Complaint so that you and
the unreleased posters would know the gravamen of what we're
complaining about.  So we give them a copy of the INDA.  We
said it was breached.  We sued for breach of the INDA, and
that's all there is in the Complaint.  And I'd be happy to
share it with you.  I guess I've got some duties, because
it's under seal to make sure it just doesn't get out.  But
the Complaint is -- it only says breach of INDA and
injunctive relief for breach of INDA.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 13:19-14:15)

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: So why not show him now?

&lt;p&gt;MR. THUMA: I'd be happy to as long as he would
agree not to post it on the Eclipse blog within four hours
after he gets it.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 14:19-22)

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: Show him right now.

&lt;p&gt;MR. THUMA: All right.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 14:26-14:27)

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: And you're ordered not to release that or its contents to
your clients.

&lt;p&gt;MR. MALINSKI: I will deliver it back.

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: Don't tell him what you're reading, that's what I'm getting
at.  Don't send an e-mail saying what you got.

&lt;p&gt;MR. MALINSKI: I will not expose that.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 15:10-16)

&lt;p&gt;I haven't yet seen Judge Vanzi's sealing order, but I'll be
surprised if it actually imposed any "dut[y]" on Thuma "to make sure
[the Complaint] just doesn't get out".  The sealing order was entered
solely at Eclipse's request, and presumably solely for Eclipse's
protection.  I would expect the order simply instructed the clerk of
the court not to make the court's copy of the Complaint available to
the public, and the order did not impose any duties at all on Eclipse.

&lt;p&gt;After some musing, Judge Manoukian decided that Eclipse had not yet
made a sufficient showing, under the
&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; standard, that there was a prima facie case:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: I don't have a complaint saying what it is you're suing
for.  And according to &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; -- and I can disagree with this -- but
according to &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt;, you need a legally sufficient complaint.  Now,
I'm going to ask Mr. Malinski if the fact that there's a commission by
a New Mexico judge if that's not entitled to full faith and credit, as
I did in the &lt;i&gt;Fuller&lt;/i&gt; case.  You know, I mean, the judge says -- issued
a commission and allowed you to get this information.  I'd like to
think that the judge thought that under New Mexico law there was a
good reason for doing so, but according to &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; case, there has to
be a legally sufficient complaint.  They talk about prima facie
evidence and so forth.  Prima facie showing.  But let me get the exact
language.  Well, yeah, the Point 6 of the &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/H030767.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt;
decision&lt;/a&gt;, others talk about whether there's a viable -- you need a
viable cause of action in order to get these types of records.  And I
don't know what happened in New Mexico, if this was a -- there was a
complaint filed which I haven't seen.  I don't know if there were any
motions to challenge the sufficiency of the demurrer.  They may go
into what is -- the fact that notice pleadings -- amount of pleadings
can vary from state to state.  And you know what I didn't get into in
the &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; case was a full blown conflicts of law analysis.  But, you
know, it seemed to me that a judge in New Mexico thought that the
records were something that ought to be produced under New Mexico law,
and I think I have to go beyond that, if I follow &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt;.


&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 16:3-17:2)

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MS. STOREY: We have made a prima facie case of breach of contract
in regards to the non-disclosure agreement.

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: You may have, but I haven't seen it, and I haven't heard
Mr. Malinski say he had an opportunity to squawk about it, since he
just saw the Complaint right now.  

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 28:26-29:3)


&lt;h5 id="post-2008-07-31-section-3.4"&gt;Lack of reply to Eclipse's evidence&lt;/h5&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another big question at the hearing was whether or not it was too
late for the Does to challenge Eclipse's evidence.  Before the
hearing, Eclipse had submitted evidence on May 23.  The main item was
the &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-21-Raburn-declaration.pdf"&gt;Raburn
Declaration&lt;/a&gt;, which included copies of several posts that the Does
had made to &lt;a
href="http://eclipsecriticng.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;code&gt;eclipsecriticng.blogspot.com&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

and its predecessor &lt;a
href="http://eclipseaviationcritic.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;code&gt;eclipseaviationcritic.blogspot.com&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.
The Does had an opportunity to file a reply on or before May 30 (per &lt;a
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=ccp&amp;amp;group=01001-02000&amp;amp;file=1003-1008"&gt;CCP
1005&lt;/a&gt;(b)), but
declined to do so.

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MR. MALINSKI: One of the posts talks about the delivery of a number
of aircraft and talks about production trouble because Eclipse had
advertised being able to deliver 20 a month.  ... Well, the fact of
the matter is, the date stamped on the date of the post follows FAA
postings on their own Web site which identify the number of airplanes
delivered at a particular point in time. ...

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: You didn't file any reply papers to the
motion so you're basically -- why should I believe you that
there was an FAA posting on this a month before?

&lt;p&gt;MR. MALINSKI: ... [Another hearing should be held, either in New
Mexico or in California.]  But we have that hearing and it's
evidentiary.  It's not: File this piece of paper and you didn't file a
reply so we won.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 18:20-23, 19:4-7, 19:24-26, 20:17-19)

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MS. STOREY: Your Honor, I disagree that now that he has the Complaint
we need to come back to address the other issues.  This was a motion
to quash the subpoena.  That's what we're here to decide.  We provided
in our opposition a very-detailed list of all the posts that we felt
were violations of confidentiality agreements, and there has been no
reply to those.  The reply was due on the 30th.  My understanding is
that on Wednesday the 4th, the blog posted requests for the unreleased
posters to give information about, hey, how do you come up with this
information?  That was well past the reply date and is still
information that we haven't seen.  They had an opportunity to reply
and say: No, it wasn't confidential information.  I got it from the
FAA Web site.  So we would then also have an opportunity to
investigate that.  That hasn't been done.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 22:24-23:10)

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MR. MALINSKI: We can't just say, as Ms. Storey says,
well, you didn't file your paperwork a couple of days ago.  That
doesn't mean anything.

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: It does.  I put a lot of attention on reply papers and
what's been -- because an argument not rebutted is accepted.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 24:24-25:1)

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MR. THUMA: Your Honor, I would like to say that I think
Mr. Malinski's argument would have more appeal if there was something
in that document that was different from something than what we filed.
There's nothing in the Complaint that would cause the least amount of
surprise.  Everything, the gravamen was in our opposition and in
Mr. Rayburn's affidavit.  And it seems like they -- his client and he
were on perfect notice of what our complaint was, what our allegations
were, the basis of our prima facie case, and they had every
opportunity to say no, no, that's not right.  ...  But there's no
surprise here, and they had the chance and they just failed to
respond.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 27:6-15, 27:18-20)


&lt;h5 id="post-2008-07-31-section-3.5"&gt;Conclusion&lt;/h5&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ultimately, Eclipse's failure to produce the Complaint and the John
Does' failure to respond to Eclipse's evidence were both forgiven.
Judge Manoukian gave both sides do-overs, in that: (1) he allowed
Eclipse to produce the Complaint at the hearing (rather than simply
quashing the subpoena on account of Eclipse's failure to include the
Complaint in its opposition papers, and thus its failure to show that
it has a prima facie case for some claim in that complaint), and; (2)
in his final remarks he invited the Does to attack the evidence in
their supplemental briefing (rather than restricting them to only
making arguments that they weren't able to make until they had the
Complaint):

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: I thought that &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; stated a valid cause of action under
Florida law, and I thought she could have stated a good cause of
action under federal security law, and the court of appeal said it
doesn't matter.

&lt;p&gt;MS. STOREY: ... I don't think the elements or the allegations in the
Complaint, particularly where we don't know the names of the people,
is going to be particularly helpful or relevant.

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: Well, look at &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt;, page 1172:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;"We therefore agree with those courts that have compelled the
plaintiff to make a prima facie showing of the elements of libel in
order to overcome a defendant's motion to quash a subpoena seeking his
or her identity."

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;[&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/H030767.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Krinsky
v. Doe 6&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (2008), 159 Cal.App.4th 1154, 1172, slip op. at 19]

&lt;p&gt;MS. STOREY: Correct. We have made a prima facie
case of breach of contract in regards to the non-disclosure
agreement.

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: You may have, but I haven't seen it, and I haven't heard
Mr. Malinski say he had an opportunity to squawk about it, since he
just saw the Complaint right now.  He says that it isn't that hard to
allege that, that the real issue is in the affirmative defenses, but
&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; doesn't talk about affirmative defenses.  Just talks about a
prima facie showing.  And they say here that I'm correct that when I
said that it was a, prima facie burden must have been made, and Ms. --
Dr. Krinsky said that she demonstrated that the postings were libelous
per se, and the court of appeal said that saying she had a fake
medical degree or she had fat thighs or poor hygiene was not libelous.
That's what the case was.  And overlooked completely was the fact that
the stock price got driven down so much.  Not important because it
wasn't plead, is what &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; case said.  So there's where I'm stuck.

&lt;p&gt;Okay.  I'll give you a 60-day continuance on that.
[Selects August 1st from the calendar.]

&lt;p&gt;What I want to see happen -- I'm just continuing this hearing, and
I will be impressed by some motion practice on the validity of the
Complaint and specific objections, Mr. Malinski, to the postings to
say that this isn't a trade secret.  Tell me why.  You file those
papers first per code, 21 -- 16 court days before the hearing.
Opposition per code.  And the reply, if any, per code.

&lt;p&gt;But I think you know where I'm coming from on this, that there has
to be a valid -- prima facie showing of a valid claim, that these are
indeed trade secrets. And like I said, I don't think you can do
anything anonymously that you can't do face to face, whether it's
breaking a contract or stealing property or ideas or whatever.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 28:5-8, 28:17-30:6)

&lt;p&gt;By the words "motion practice on the validity of the Complaint",
Judge Manoukian was referring to the Does filing a motion in New
Mexico.  Judge Manoukian had earlier asked Thuma (the only New Mexico
lawyer in the room) how long that would take:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MR. MALINSKI: But where I think this motion goes is it either gets
abated until I have an opportunity to deal with the Complaint --

&lt;p&gt;THE COURT: I'm inclined to agree with that.  Tell me, in New Mexico
how long does it take to get a motion to challenge the sufficiency of
a complaint on calendar.

&lt;p&gt;MR. THUMA: Usually you file a motion, see if it's opposed, and
request a setting. And depending on the judge's calendar, she'll set
the matter. There's 20 days to respond and 15 days to reply, so it
takes take a month, 45 days to have a hearing on it.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(transcript at 26:22-27:5)

&lt;p&gt;The &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-docket-as-of-2008-07-31.pdf"&gt;New Mexico online docket&lt;/a&gt; indicates that the Does did make a
motion there challenging the complaint, but they did not even file it until
46 days had already passed, on July 22.  That motion has been set for
hearing on September 2 (88 days after the June 6 hearing).

&lt;p&gt;By the words "per code", Judge Manoukian was referring to &lt;a
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=ccp&amp;amp;group=01001-02000&amp;amp;file=1003-1008"&gt;CCP
1005&lt;/a&gt;(b), which establishes standard briefing deadlines of 16, 9,
and 5 court days before a hearing.  Doing the calendrical math, one
sees that he was requesting a supplemental brief from the Does by July
10, a supplemental opposition from Eclipse by July 21, and an optional
reply from the Does by July 25.


&lt;p&gt;The &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-docket-as-of-2008-07-31.html"&gt;California
online docket&lt;/a&gt; indicates the Does filed no supplemental papers by
July 10, but Eclipse did file opposition papers on July 21, and the
Does filed a reply on July 25.

&lt;p&gt;Something Judge Manoukian did not explicitly address was (a) when (and
by whom) a copy of the Complaint would be filed in California; and (b)
whether or not it would be filed under seal here.  Under
&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt;, I don't see how Judge Manoukian could rule that a
prima facie case has been made (and that the Does' "squawk[ing]" about
the Complaint is unpersuasive) without reading the Complaint himself.

&lt;p&gt;The &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-docket-as-of-2008-07-31.pdf"&gt;New Mexico docket&lt;/a&gt; now shows that on July 25, the Does filed an
"UNOPPOSED MOTION TO UNSEAL FILE".  I believe this means that the
Complaint will soon be publicly available from the courts in both
states.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7998609517132732266-647079168173833295?l=eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default/647079168173833295'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default/647079168173833295'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/07/june-6-hearing-notes-and-transcript.html' title='June 6 hearing notes and transcript excerpts'/><author><name>Al Petrofsky</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00521212742095753420</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7998609517132732266.post-6970080619533725400</id><published>2008-06-23T15:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-23T15:12:20.993-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The written submissions before the first hearing</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;I still don't have a transcript of the motion hearing that was held
on June 6, 2008, but I have at last managed to obtain all of the
documents that were submitted in preparation for the hearing, in
particular:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;The John Does' opening papers, filed on May 14:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-07-quash-notice.pdf"&gt;motion
to quash&lt;/a&gt; the subpoena that was issued to Google.

&lt;li&gt;The 6-page &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-07-quash-memo.pdf"&gt;supporting
memorandum&lt;/a&gt;. (Its attachments include a copy of the subpoena.)


&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Eclipse Aviation's opposition papers, filed on May 23:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;The 13-page &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-quash-opposition.pdf"&gt;opposition memorandum&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;li&gt;The supporting evidence that is referenced by the memorandum:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-Barratt-declaration.pdf"&gt;Declaration
of Raymond Barratt&lt;/a&gt;, Eclipse's Chief Information Officer. It
includes these attachments:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Exhibit A, "Preserved Posts &amp;ndash; Eclipse
Critic Blogspot", a table of blog postings.


&lt;li&gt;Exhibit B, an untitled single page (labeled "Page 6") that appears
to contain portions of two emails that Eclipse claims were written by
its ex-employee Brian Skupa.

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-21-Raburn-declaration.pdf"&gt;Declaration
of Vern Raburn&lt;/a&gt;, Eclipse's Chief Executive Officer.  It includes:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Exhibit A: "Eclipse Aviation Corporation Employee Invention &amp;amp;
Non-Disclosure Agreement (INDA)".  This is the contract that was
allegedly breached by unknown defendants.

&lt;li&gt;Exhibit B: "Table of Blogger Posts That Breached the INDAs".
This is the same as Barratt's Exhibit A, but with the addition of an
"Eclipse Comment" column.

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;The Does' reply papers (optional), due on May 30:
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(none filed)
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;See the &lt;a
href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/06/eclipse-aviation-vs-does-court.html"&gt;Court
Documents page&lt;/a&gt; for a more complete list of the filings in
&lt;i&gt;Eclipse Aviation Corp. v. John Doe et al.&lt;/i&gt;, No. 1-08-CV-110380,
California Superior Court, Santa Clara County.

&lt;p&gt;A simple written &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-06-06-minute-order.pdf"&gt;Minute
Order&lt;/a&gt; has been filed, which just documents who officially showed
up at the hearing (Norman Malinski for the Does, David Thuma and
Angela Storey for Eclipse, Judge Socrates Manoukian, a clerk, a
bailiff, and a court reporter) and the fact that the matter was
continued to August 1.  I should be receiving a hearing transcript
from the court reporter sometime in July, at which time I'll post a
write-up of the arguments.  If you want to get a flavor of what the
hearing was like, look at the transcripts from the &lt;i&gt;Fuller&lt;/i&gt; and

&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; hearings in 2006 (see &lt;a
href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/05/transcripts-of-hb-fuller-and-krinsky.html"&gt;my
May 29 post&lt;/a&gt;).  Judge Manoukian's style hasn't changed any since
then.

&lt;p&gt;Below are some notes on the various submissions.  This is somewhat
long, so here's a Table of Contents:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a id="toc1" href="#post-2008-06-23-section-1"&gt;1. The Does' Opening Papers&lt;/a&gt;          
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a id="toc2" href="#post-2008-06-23-section-2"&gt;2. Eclipse's Opposition Papers&lt;/a&gt;          
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a id="toc2.1" href="#post-2008-06-23-section-2.1"&gt;2.1. Retreat From 28 Identities to 14 Unreleased Posters&lt;/a&gt;   
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a id="toc2.2" href="#post-2008-06-23-section-2.2"&gt;2.2. Copy of the Complaint Not Filed&lt;/a&gt;         
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a id="toc2.3" href="#post-2008-06-23-section-2.3"&gt;2.3. Raburn's Table of Posts &amp;ndash; Confidential "in part"&lt;/a&gt;      

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a id="toc2.4" href="#post-2008-06-23-section-2.4"&gt;2.4. Skupa Emails&lt;/a&gt;            
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a id="toc3" href="#post-2008-06-23-section-3"&gt;3. The Does' Lack of Reply Papers&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4 id="post-2008-06-23-section-1"&gt;1. The Does' Opening Papers&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wrote some comments about the opening papers in &lt;a
href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/05/motion-to-quash-subpoena-to-be-heard_19.html"&gt;my
May 19 post&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;h4 id="post-2008-06-23-section-2"&gt;2. Eclipse's Opposition Papers&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;h5 id="post-2008-06-23-section-2.1"&gt;2.1. Retreat From 28 Identities to 14 Unreleased Posters&lt;/h5&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-subpoena.pdf"&gt;Eclipse's
subpoena&lt;/a&gt;, issued on April 14, sought information from Google
regarding the users of 28 "posting identity/identities".  At the
outset of its &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-quash-opposition.pdf"&gt;opposition
memorandum&lt;/a&gt;, dated May 23, Eclipse states that over the course of
the five weeks since the subpoena was issued, Eclipse has decided, as
to about half of the identities, not to pursue the matter.  It says
this is "either because upon further review the posted entries may not have
violated any of ECLIPSE'S legal rights, because the posted entries
have been deleted by the poster, or because the poster has disclosed
his identity to ECLIPSE, and ECLIPSE is satisfied that none of its
rights were violated by such person." (&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-quash-opposition.pdf"&gt;Opp.&lt;/a&gt; at 1:8-11)

&lt;p&gt;Eclipse therefore only opposes the Does' motion as to the 14
identities about which Eclipse still seeks information, which it calls
the "Unreleased Posters".  They are: "COLDWETMACKERALOFREALITY, NINER
ZULU, FLIGHTCENTER, GADFLY, AIRTAXIMAN, FLIGHTGUY, ECLIPSO, METALGUY,
TURBOPROP_PILOT, FREEDOMSJAMTARTS, EXEAC, AIRSAFETYMAN, BILL E.GOAT,
and WHYTECH." (&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-quash-opposition.pdf"&gt;Opp.&lt;/a&gt;
at 1:24) (Note: "FLIGHTCENTER" and "GADFLY" are not actually listed on
&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-subpoena.pdf"&gt;the
subpoena&lt;/a&gt;, but it appears that the single name "FLIGHTCENTERGADFLY"
was intended to be these two distinct names.)

&lt;p&gt;At the hearing, Norman Malinski stated that he represents 13 of the
14 Unreleased Posters.  (He did not say which of the 14 is the
unrepresented Unreleased Poster.)

&lt;h5 id="post-2008-06-23-section-2.2"&gt;2.2. Copy of the Complaint Not Filed&lt;/h5&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Does and Eclipse agree that a crucial legal precedent for this
case is &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/H030767.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Krinsky
v. Doe 6&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (2008), 159 Cal.App.4th 1154, which established the
standard a plaintiff must meet if it is to unmask anonymous speakers.
Namely, the plaintiff must make a prima facie showing of each element
necessary to its claim.

&lt;p&gt;To determine whether Eclipse has made the prima facie showing, one
first must know what Eclipse's claims are.  The ordinary way to
determine what the claims in a case are is to look at the written
complaint.  

&lt;p&gt;Eclipse's complaint was filed in the New Mexico court back on March
18.  I had expected that when Eclipse filed its motion opposition
papers here in California, it would include a copy of the complaint.
Because the complaint was under seal in New Mexico, I figured Eclipse
would seek permission to file it under seal in California as well.
However, because California has stringent standards that must be met
for anything to be filed under seal (see &lt;a
href="http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/rules/index.cfm?title=two&amp;amp;linkid=rule2_551"&gt;CRC
2.551&lt;/a&gt;), I also thought that Eclipse might not bother to try to
meet those standards and would just file the document publicly here.

&lt;p&gt;Eclipse chose neither of those options.  It simply didn't file a
copy of the complaint at all.  Thus, at the start of the June 6
hearing, the only people who had seen Eclipse's complaint were Eclipse
itself and Judge Linda M. Vanzi in New Mexico.

&lt;p&gt;In every subpoena case cited by Eclipse, a copy of the underlying
complaint had been filed &lt;em&gt;in the court of the judge who had to rule
on whether or not to quash the subpoena&lt;/em&gt;, rather than just having
been filed in some court in a completely different state.  Just as
importantly, the complaint was also available to the other parties,
which was necessary for them to be able to adequately brief the issues
for the judge.  See &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Highfields-Capital-vs-Doe-2005-01-18.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Highfields
Capital&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Sony-Music-vs-Does-2004-07-26.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sony
Music&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Apple-Computer-vs-Does-2005-03-11.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Apple
Computer&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;,

&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-appeal-2007-05-31-unsealing-opinion.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/H030767.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/G023316.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Rancho
Publications&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Immunomedics-vs-Doe-2001-07-11.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Immunomedics&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
(all as cited in the Table of Authorities in &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-quash-opposition.pdf"&gt;Eclipse's
brief&lt;/a&gt;).

&lt;p&gt;Eclipse's opposition papers do include some substantial information
about the complaint: it is "for Breach of Contract and Injunctive
Relief" (&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-quash-opposition.pdf"&gt;Opp.&lt;/a&gt; at 4:14-15), against unknown past or present Eclipse
employees.  A copy of the allegedly breached contract, the
"Eclipse Aviation Corporation Employee Invention &amp;amp; Non-Disclosure
Agreement (INDA)", can be found at Exhibit A of the &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-21-Raburn-declaration.pdf"&gt;Raburn
Declaration&lt;/a&gt;.  Eclipse also mentions that it "intends to amend its
Complaint to add a count for violation of New Mexico's Uniform Trade
Secrets Act, if it appears that particular information disclosed by
particular employees comes within the definition of trade secrets"
(&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-quash-opposition.pdf"&gt;Opp.&lt;/a&gt; at 6:27-28).


&lt;p&gt;However, the &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; decision demonstrated that: (1) looking
to the precise contents of the complaint may be necessary to determine
the fate of the subpoena; and (2) not-yet-pleaded claims don't count:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Seeking damages and an injunction, plaintiff asserted two causes of
action in &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Krinsky-vs-Does-FL-2006-01-19-complaint.pdf"&gt;the
Florida complaint&lt;/a&gt;. All 10 defendants were accused of intentional
interference with a "contractual and/or business employment
relationship" between plaintiff and SFBC.  Nine of the defendants were
accused together of libel based on false and misleading Internet
statements imputing dishonesty, fraud, improper professional conduct,
and criminal activity to plaintiff. ...

&lt;p&gt;[Judge Manoukian] bas[ed] &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Krinsky-vs-Does-CA-2006-10-16-quash-opinion.pdf"&gt;[his]
ruling&lt;/a&gt; not on any showing related to the libel claim, but on
plaintiff's argument regarding stock manipulation.  &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Krinsky-vs-Does-FL-2006-01-19-complaint.pdf"&gt;Plaintiff's
complaint&lt;/a&gt; included only two causes of action: intentional
interference with a "contractual and/or business/employment
relationship with SFBC" and defamation. In &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Krinsky-vs-Does-CA-2006-07-21-Krinsky-supplemental-brief.pdf"&gt;her
supplemental brief&lt;/a&gt; she acknowledged that she had "not yet asserted
claims relating to violations of State and/or Federal securities
laws."  We will refrain from ruling on the adequacy of a cause of
action that was never pleaded [Footnote 16:] The only reference in the
complaint to stock manipulation was in the description of the
defendants: "... [a long quotation from the complaint] ..."


&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/H030767.pdf"&gt;slip
op.&lt;/a&gt; at 2 and 20-21 (hyperlinks added)) (for more documents from the &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; case, see &lt;a
href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/05/transcripts-of-hb-fuller-and-krinsky.html"&gt;my
May 29 post&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;p&gt;At the hearing, the fact that Eclipse's complaint had not been
disclosed to the Does or their attorney was the key issue.  (As I
wrote in the update to &lt;a
href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/06/hearing-continued-to-august-1.html"&gt;my
June 6 post&lt;/a&gt;, the basic outcome was that: (1) the complaint was
provided to the Does, on an attorney's-eyes-only basis; (2) further
briefing was ordered; and (3) the matter was continued to August 1.)

&lt;h5 id="post-2008-06-23-section-2.3"&gt;2.3. Raburn's Table of Posts &amp;ndash; Confidential "in part"&lt;/h5&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Eclipse's central piece of evidence, which it quotes extensively on
pages 10-11 of its &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-quash-opposition.pdf"&gt;opposition
brief&lt;/a&gt;, is the "Table of Blogger Posts That Breached the INDAs",
Exhibit B to the &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-21-Raburn-declaration.pdf"&gt;Raburn
Declaration&lt;/a&gt;.  This is a table of 38 blog posts
(35 by the Unreleased Posters and 3 by Shane Price), with a column
labeled "Eclipse Comment".

&lt;p&gt;For many of the posts, the only "Eclipse Comment" is this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Commentary based in part on confidential information, not available to
the public

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This seems to me to be equivalent to saying:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(a) parts of the post are not confidential information; and
&lt;br&gt;(b) somewhere in the post is some confidential information; but 

&lt;br&gt;(c) I decline to identify where or what the confidential information is.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;California's Sixth Appellate District (which will eventually be
reviewing whatever decision Judge Manoukian makes in this case, if it
is appealed) took a dim view of such coyness in the
&lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller&lt;/i&gt; case:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Again the averment is strangely indirect.  Instead of simply stating
what information in the posted messages was damaging, and how or why,
it describes the thought processes leading to the declarant's decision
to make certain statements to employees. ...  

&lt;p&gt;... The experience of courts over the centuries has been that one
who is in a position to testify directly to facts, but who, in a
formal pleading or similar submission, instead states relevant matters
in an oblique, vague, attributive, conditional, incomplete, or
otherwise circumlocutory manner, may be deliberately avoiding a direct
(and thus more easily controverted) assertion. ... [The averments']
peculiarly attenuated form is sufficient to raise a suspicion that a
more direct statement would disclose weaknesses in plaintiff's
position that the attenuation is intended to conceal.

&lt;p&gt;...  If plaintiff specified the particular disclosures of which it
complains, it would ease defendant's task of refuting the claim that
those disclosures concerned "confidential information" as defined in
the nondisclosure agreement.  It would also open plaintiff's
allegations to the response that even if a given disclosure fell
within that definition, the matter disclosed was already or otherwise
available to the public, such that the disclosure did not proximately
cause plaintiff to sustain recoverable damages.  The very nebulousness
of the claimed breach suggests the possibility that plaintiff's
objective was never to pursue a cause of action to judgment but only
to employ the process of the court to aid an investigation into what
it supposes to be a breach of corporate security.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(&lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller v. Doe&lt;/i&gt; (2007), 151 Cal.App.4th 879, &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-appeal-2007-05-31-unsealing-opinion.pdf"&gt;slip
op.&lt;/a&gt; at 19-20)


&lt;p&gt;Raburn makes multiple uses of three variants of the "based in part
on confidential information" allegation:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1. "Commentary based in part on confidential information, not available to
the public"

&lt;br&gt;2. "Commentary based in part on confidential information, not available
to the public at the time of the post"

&lt;br&gt;3. "Commentary based in part on confidential information obtained from
former employees of Eclipse"

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As to 10 of the 14 Unreleased Posters (all but
Coldwetmackeralofreality, Eclipso, Freedomsjamtarts, and Exeac), the
only averments Raburn makes are these vague boilerplates.


&lt;h5 id="post-2008-06-23-section-2.4"&gt;2.4. Skupa Emails&lt;/h5&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Eclipse makes much of a statement allegedly made on April 16, 2008
by its then-employee Brian Skupa:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;   Yes, I'm an almost daily reader of this blog too now.&amp;nbsp;

   Sometimes they're off by a mile, other times they're so close to
   the truth that there has to be someone on the "inside" feeding them
   info, because one couldn't guess and be that "on target".

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This quote, or parts of it, are repeated three times in the &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-quash-opposition.pdf"&gt;opposition
memorandum&lt;/a&gt; (at 4:3-5, 11:15-17, and 11:23).  Eclipse says, as
background, that Skupa was "caught 'red-handed' sending confidential
business information outside the company" (&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-quash-opposition.pdf"&gt;Opp.&lt;/a&gt; at 3:26-27).

&lt;p&gt;Quoting Skupa would make more sense to me if Skupa were stating
that he had personally provided information to the blog, or that he
had personal knowledge that someone else had done so.  However, the
quote is clearly not such a statement.  Instead, it is just someone
opining, based on his assessment of the accuracy of some of the
information and his lack of knowledge of any previous public
availability of the information, that it is highly likely to have been
provided to the blog by an insider.  In other words, the alleged Skupa
statement is just offering the same opinion that Raburn offers,
without adding any facts.

&lt;p&gt;Perhaps Eclipse thinks it is more persuasive coming from Skupa than
from Raburn because it considers Skupa's opinion to be similar to a
"Declaration Against Interest" (which is one of the types of hearsay
evidence that are allowed under California's hearsay rule; see &lt;a
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/calawquery?codebody=&amp;amp;hits=20&amp;amp;codesection=evid"&gt;Cal.
Evidence Code&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=evid&amp;amp;group=01001-02000&amp;amp;file=1230"&gt;&amp;sect;1230&lt;/a&gt;

and &amp;sect;&amp;sect;1200-1380).  Obviously, the opinion that there "has to
be someone" is not even a statement of a personally known fact, but it
also seems to me that if everything Eclipse says about Skupa is true,
then it would actually be in Skupa's interest to &lt;em&gt;overestimate&lt;/em&gt;
the probability that other employees were leaking information to the
blog.  The more that other employees were also violating their
agreements, the less bad Skupa's engagement in such conduct would
look.

&lt;p&gt;Eclipse provides a longer excerpt of the alleged email in Exhibit B
to the &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-Barratt-declaration.pdf"&gt;Barratt
Declaration&lt;/a&gt;.  It includes information about "a new engineering
term":

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:35:08 -0600

&lt;p&gt;Yes, I'm an almost daily reader of this blog too now.&amp;nbsp;
Sometimes they're off by a mile, other times they're so close to the
truth that there has to be someone on the "inside" feeding them info,
because one couldn't guess and be that "on target".&amp;nbsp; It's really
becoming pathetic to watch this thing (e-clips) auger in.&amp;nbsp; Even
the "spinners" at e-clips can't put much of a spin on anything
now.&amp;nbsp; The time between when something is "spun" and the time it
becomes truthfully known is becoming so compressed that it's actually
embarrassing to even try to be deceptive anymore.&amp;nbsp; The quality of
the airplanes now is crap.&amp;nbsp; That's a new engineering term
here.&amp;nbsp; Ten of the last twelve customer aircraft broke in the
Delivery Hanger with customers getting ready to fly them.&amp;nbsp;

EVERYONE now will not even pay for an airplane until EVERYTHING is
fixed, which usually entails at least three trips to the Service
Center.&amp;nbsp; Consequently, I'm trying to juggle about twelve aircraft
right now in v=

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, it cuts off in mid-word like that in the exhibit.  There are
a few oddities about this exhibit.  First, it does not include any
antecedent connecting the words "this blog" to the Eclipse Aviation
Critic NG blog.  Second, in the declaration itself there is no mention
of any Exhibit B.  Third, there is only one page in the exhibit, which
has no title, starts in the middle of a sentence, and is labeled at
the bottom as "Page 6".  I believe that per &lt;a
href="http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/rules/index.cfm?title=three&amp;amp;linkid=rule3_1110"&gt;CRC
3.1110&lt;/a&gt;(f) ("an index to Exhibits must be provided"), Eclipse
should have at least revealed what the title is of the document from
which this "Page 6" originated.

&lt;p&gt;In addition to two partial excerpts of alleged Skupa emails, Exhibit B
also includes these statements by an unidentified commentator:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are THOUSANDS of deleted files and folders - it looks like
someone has tried to remove Temporary Internet Files in an attempt to
remove evidence of E-Mail and Web activity.  Also, specifically in the
time frame of the period after April 21st at 17:00 until the computer
was seized, over 595 files were deleted from the computer - because
the computer was in heavy use during this period, and because files
and data get's overwritten, there is no telling how many more files
have been lost.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My guess is that this exhibit is a page from an expert report in the
&lt;i&gt;Eclipse v. Skupa&lt;/i&gt; case.  If the expert was not Barratt himself,
then I'm not sure Barratt was justified in declaring that "I have
personal knowledge of the facts set forth in this Declaration
... Among the information recovered from Mr. Skupa's hard drive was an
e-mail sent by him to Kate Zaranek on April 16, 2008". (&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-Barratt-declaration.pdf"&gt;Barratt
Declaration&lt;/a&gt; at &amp;para;1 and &amp;para;6).



&lt;p&gt;By the way, it was reported in September 2006 that Eclipse had
recently "promoted Kate Zaranek as Eclipse's new public relations
specialist from her position as sales support representative."  (&lt;a
href="http://www.avtoday.com/ran/categories/commercial/5217.html"&gt;Aviation
Today, September 18, 2006&lt;/a&gt;).  Because Eclipse is complaining about
Skupa providing information to her, I assume this means that by April
2008 she was no longer one of Eclipse's own PR flacks.


&lt;h4 id="post-2008-06-23-section-3"&gt;3. The Does' Lack of Reply Papers&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In &lt;a
href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/05/transcripts-of-hb-fuller-and-krinsky.html"&gt;my
May 29 post&lt;/a&gt;, I mentioned that the deadline for the Does to file
any reply papers was coming up on May 30, per &lt;a
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=ccp&amp;amp;group=01001-02000&amp;amp;file=1003-1008"&gt;CCP
1005(b)&lt;/a&gt;.  To my surprise, no reply papers were filed.

&lt;p&gt;At one point during the hearing, Norman Malinski (the Does'
attorney) started to talk about problems with Eclipse's evidence, and
he claimed that some of the allegedly confidential information had
actually been previously published elsewhere.

&lt;p&gt;Had the Does submitted a declaration documenting where and when the
information had been previously published, Eclipse's attorneys would
have had a chance to check, before the hearing, whether or not that
prior publication really existed.

&lt;p&gt;That not having happened, Judge Manoukian's response to Malinski
was, "You didn't file reply papers.  Why should I believe what you say
about the Raburn declaration? ... I put a lot of attention on reply
papers ... An argument unrebutted is an argument accepted."  That was
the end of the discussion about Eclipse's evidence.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7998609517132732266-6970080619533725400?l=eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default/6970080619533725400'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default/6970080619533725400'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/06/written-submissions-before-first.html' title='The written submissions before the first hearing'/><author><name>Al Petrofsky</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00521212742095753420</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7998609517132732266.post-7495417856063935863</id><published>2008-06-06T15:54:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-09T23:29:16.476-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Hearing continued to August 1</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;This morning, for about 50 minutes, Judge Socrates Manoukian heard
arguments on the &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-07-quash-notice.pdf"&gt;Motion
to Quash the Subpoena&lt;/a&gt; in &lt;i&gt;Eclipse Aviation Corp. v. John Doe et
al.&lt;/i&gt;, No. 1-08-CV-110380, California Superior Court, Santa Clara
County.

&lt;p&gt;Rather than ruling on the motion, he then set a schedule for
further written submissions from the parties, and set a second hearing
date of Friday, August 1, at 10:00 A.M..

&lt;p&gt;I'll try to post a longer report sometime tomorrow.

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Update on Monday, June 9&lt;/b&gt;: Sorry, I didn't get a chance to
write anything over the weekend.  Here's a slightly longer report,
covering what little was actually ordered at the hearing:

&lt;p&gt;1. Per agreement of the parties, Judge Manoukian: (a) ordered
Eclipse's attorney to immediately give the Does' attorney a copy of
the Complaint that initiated the litigation; and (b) ordered the Does'
attorney not to show the Complaint to anyone, not even his clients.  (The
Complaint has never been filed in the California court.  It was filed
under seal in the New Mexico court back on March 18.)

&lt;p&gt;2. He continued the hearing to 10:00 A.M. on Friday, August 1, and
gave the Does until Thursday, July 10 to file a supplemental brief,
with a supplemental opposition from Eclipse due by Monday, July 21,
and the Does' supplemental reply due Friday, July 25.

&lt;p&gt;I think I'll wait until I have a copy of the official transcript
before I do a longer write-up of the hearing.  It will probably be a
few weeks before I get the transcript.  In the meantime, I hope that
by the end of this week I'll have added a few more documents to the &lt;a
href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/06/eclipse-aviation-vs-does-court.html"&gt;Court
Documents page&lt;/a&gt;, especially the opposition brief that Eclipse filed
back on May 23.  That's the document that contains Eclipse's response
to the arguments in &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-07-quash-memo.pdf"&gt;the
Does' opening brief&lt;/a&gt;.  It also (presumably) explains exactly how
Eclipse believes its other opposition papers (such as &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-21-Raburn-declaration.pdf"&gt;the
Raburn Declaration&lt;/a&gt;) support Eclipse's arguments.

&lt;p&gt;(That opposition brief has officially been a public document since the
day it was filed (May 23).  The court, Eclipse's lawyer, and the Does'
lawyer all have copies of it, and I've asked all three of them to show
it to me, but they've all thus far refused to do so.  Of course, the
only one of those three with an &lt;i&gt;obligation&lt;/i&gt; to show its copy to
the public is the court, and there's no particular time frame for that
obligation.  Thus, I've had to accept the parties' answers of "No",
and the court's answer of "We'll let you see it sometime after the
hearing".)

&lt;p&gt;My requests for permission to make an audio recording of the hearing
were denied.  As I discussed in my &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-06-04-media-reply.pdf"&gt;June
4 letter to Judge Manoukian&lt;/a&gt;, that means that I may never be
legally able to "provide the public with a complete, spin-free account
of what occurred at the hearing", because official transcripts from
proceedings in California courts are given a sort of pseudo-copyright
protection by &lt;a
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=gov&amp;amp;group=69001-70000&amp;amp;file=69941-69958"&gt;California
Government Code &amp;sect;69954&lt;/a&gt;(d).  I will, however, at least post
some excerpts from the transcript, once I get my copy of it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7998609517132732266-7495417856063935863?l=eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default/7495417856063935863'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default/7495417856063935863'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/06/hearing-continued-to-august-1.html' title='Hearing continued to August 1'/><author><name>Al Petrofsky</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00521212742095753420</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7998609517132732266.post-5236927806871257052</id><published>2008-06-01T17:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-08-19T15:24:31.168-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Eclipse Aviation vs. Does: court documents and links</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;(This is the post to which I add new documents as I obtain them.
To determine whether any new documents have been added since a
previous visit, see &lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-3"&gt;the
chronological list of additions&lt;/a&gt; at the bottom of the post.)

&lt;p&gt;Table of Contents:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-1"&gt;Documents&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-1.1"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Eclipse v. Does&lt;/i&gt; (New Mexico)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-1.2"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Eclipse v. Does&lt;/i&gt; (California)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-1.3"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Eclipse v. Skupa&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-1.4"&gt;Other cases&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-1.4.1"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Geiger v. Eclipse&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-1.4.2"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Ice Blue v. Eclipse&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-2"&gt;Links&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-2.1"&gt;Parties, deponent, etc.&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-2.2"&gt;Attorneys&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-2.3"&gt;Judges&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-2.4"&gt;Case information direct from courts&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-2.5"&gt;California law&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-2.6"&gt;New Mexico law&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-section-3"&gt;List of additions&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;h4 id="post-2008-06-01-section-1"&gt;Documents&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li id="post-2008-06-01-section-1.1"&gt;The New Mexico case: &lt;i&gt;ECLIPSE AVIATION CORPORATION, a Delaware Corporation vs. JOHN DOE;
JANE DOE; And various other unknown individuals designated VARIOUS
DOES&lt;/i&gt;, No. D-202-CV-2008-02624, SECOND JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT,
COUNTY OF BERNALILLO, STATE OF NEW MEXICO, filed March 18, 2008

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-docket.pdf"&gt;Docket
listing&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;!-- (Next court date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008 at 9:30 A.M. MDT --&gt;
&lt;!-- (1530Z), on the Doe's motion to dismiss, before Judge --&gt;

&lt;!-- Linda M. Vanzi in Courtroom 706 at the Bernalillo County Courthouse, --&gt;
&lt;!-- 400 Lomas Blvd NW, Albuquerque NM 87102) --&gt;


&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-2008-03-06-complaint.pdf"&gt;"Verified
Complaint For Breach of Contract and Injunctive Relief"&lt;/a&gt;, verified
March 6, 2008 by Bruce Castle (filed March 18, 2008)

&lt;li&gt;Docket text: "Summons Issued", entered March 18, 2008

&lt;li&gt;Docket text: "Court-Annexed Arbitration Certification", filed March 18, 2008

&lt;li&gt;Docket text: "Eclipse Aviation Corporation's Motion to Seal
Verified Complaint for Breach of Contract and Injunctive
Relief, and to Seal This Motion", filed March 18, 2008

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-2008-03-18-sealing-order.pdf"&gt;"Order
Granting Eclipse Aviation Corporation's Motion to Seal Verified
Complaint For Breach of Contract and Injunctive Relief and to Seal
This Motion"&lt;/a&gt;, filed March 18, 2008

&lt;li&gt;"Eclipse Aviation Corporation's Motion for Commission to Issue
and/or Obtain Subpoena in California" (not docketed, but it is
mentioned in the order filed April 10, 2008)

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-2008-04-10-commission.pdf"&gt;"Commission to Issue and/or Obtain Subpoena in California"&lt;/a&gt;, filed April
10, 2008

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-2008-07-03-Malinski-affidavit.pdf"&gt;"Affidavit
of Non-Admitted Lawyer" (Norman Malinski)&lt;/a&gt;, dated July 3, 2008
(filed July 8, 2008) (per &lt;a
href="http://www.conwaygreene.com/nmsu/lpext.dll/nmsu2008july/23e9d/23ec1/2440d/24443?f=templates&amp;amp;fn=document-frame.htm&amp;amp;2.0"&gt;NMRA
1-089.1&lt;/a&gt;(A), pro hac vice orders are not required in New Mexico;
upon the filing of this affidavit, Malinski was deemed admitted to
practice law in New Mexico (for this case only))


&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-2008-07-08-appearance.pdf"&gt;"Entry
of Appearance" (by Andrew G. Schultz and Norman Malinski for Defendants)&lt;/a&gt;, served July 8, 2008

&lt;li&gt;Docket text: "Motion of Doe Defendants to Dismiss, or in the
Alternative, Motion For More Definite Statement", filed July 22, 2008

&lt;li&gt;Docket text: "Request For Hearing on Motion to Dismiss or Motion
For More Definite Statement", filed July 22, 2008

&lt;li&gt;Docket text: "Notice of Hearing on Motion of Doe Defendants to
Dismiss, or in the Alternative, Motion For More Definite
Statement on 09/02/08 @ 9:30 AM", filed July 24, 2008

&lt;li&gt;Docket text: "Defendants' Unopposed Motion to Unseal File", filed
July 25, 2008

&lt;li&gt;Docket text: "Stipulated Order of Dismissal Without Prejudice", filed
July 30, 2008

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li id="post-2008-06-01-section-1.2"&gt;The California case: &lt;i&gt;ECLIPSE AVIATION CORPORATION, a Delaware Corporation vs. JOHN DOE;
JANE DOE; and various other unknown individuals designated VARIOUS
DOES, and DOES 1 through 500&lt;/i&gt;, No. 1-08-CV-110380, SUPERIOR COURT
OF CALIFORNIA, SANTA CLARA COUNTY, filed April 14, 2008.

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-docket.html"&gt;Docket
listing&lt;/a&gt; (My numbering of documents below is based on the numbering
by the Clerk of Court in this listing)


&lt;!-- &lt;br&gt;(Next court date: Friday, August 1, 2008, at 10:00 A.M. PDT --&gt;
&lt;!-- (1700Z), before Judge Socrates Peter Manoukian in Department --&gt;
&lt;!-- 7 on the third floor of the new courthouse, 191 N 1st St, San Jose CA --&gt;
&lt;!-- 95113) --&gt;

&lt;li&gt;1. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-cover-sheet.pdf"&gt;"Civil
Case Cover Sheet"&lt;/a&gt;, dated April 14, 2008

&lt;li&gt;2. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-Storey-declaration.pdf"&gt;"Declaration
of Angela F. Storey in Support of Order to Issue Subpoena in
California For Action Outside State"&lt;/a&gt;, dated April 14, 2008
(Exhibit A is the commission from the New Mexico case;
Exhibit B is the proposed "Deposition Subpoena for Production of
Business Records", which includes a list of 28 "posting
identities", starting with "TURN-AND-BURN")

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-subpoena.pdf"&gt;"Deposition
Subpoena for Production of Business Records"&lt;/a&gt;, dated April 14, 2008
(this is the issued subpoena, signed on behalf of the Clerk of the
Court, Kiri Torre, by Deputy Clerk Betty Chopoff; it
was later filed as Exhibit A to the motion to quash (item 8, below))

&lt;li&gt;3. Docket text: "Cv First Paper Def - Unltd", entered May 5, 2008. (For this entry on the &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-docket.html"&gt;docket
listing&lt;/a&gt;, there is no corresponding separate document in the case file.
The official record that the Does paid the $320 first-paper filing fee (per &lt;a
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=gov&amp;amp;group=70001-71000&amp;amp;file=70600-70640"&gt;GC

&amp;sect;70612&lt;/a&gt;(a)) can be found stamped onto the front of their first paper (item
4). Note: the Clerk's entries for items 3 through 6 erroneously record
that they are "For: Google, Inc. / RSP", but they were actually filed by the Does.)

&lt;li&gt;4. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-02-application-PHV.pdf"&gt;"Application
of Norman Malinski For Admission in Pro Hac Vice"&lt;/a&gt;, dated May 2, 2008

&lt;li&gt;5. &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-02-notice-PHV.pdf"&gt;"Notice of
Filing" (of letter re: pro hac vice application)&lt;/a&gt;, served May 2, 2008

&lt;li&gt;6. &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-05-order-PHV.pdf"&gt;"Order on
Application of Norman Malinski, Esquire For Admission in Pro Hac
Vice"&lt;/a&gt;, signed May 5, 2008 by Judge Cabrinha

&lt;li&gt;7. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-07-quash-notice.pdf"&gt;"Notice
of Motion and Motion to Quash Subpoena" (by John Doe)&lt;/a&gt;, dated May 7, 2008 (filed
May 14, 2008) (Hearing is noticed for Friday, June 6, 2008, at 10:00
A.M. PDT (1700Z), before Judge Manoukian in Department 7)

&lt;li&gt;8. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-07-quash-memo.pdf"&gt;"Motion
to Quash and Supporting Memorandum of Points and Authorities"&lt;/a&gt;,
dated May 7, 2008 (filed May 14, 2008) (see also &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-07-quash-memo-text.pdf"&gt;this
draft version with electronic text&lt;/a&gt;, which I found at &lt;a
href="http://charterx.com"&gt;&lt;code&gt;charterx.com&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;; note that
its pagination differs from the filed version's)


&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-08-outcard.pdf"&gt;"Out
Card"&lt;/a&gt; (for the temporary removal of the case file from the publically-accessible Records Unit, due to the reservation of a spot on the June 6 hearing calendar), dated May 8, 2008

&lt;li&gt;9. &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-19-application-PHV.pdf"&gt;"Ex Parte
Application of David T. Thuma For Admission in Pro Hac Vice"&lt;/a&gt;,
dated May 19, 2008

&lt;li&gt;10. &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-20-Storey-declaration.pdf"&gt;"Declaration of
Angela F. Storey in Support of Ex Parte Application of
David T. Thuma For Admission in Pro Hac Vice"&lt;/a&gt;, dated May 20, 2008

&lt;li&gt;11. &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-21-order-PHV.pdf"&gt;"Order For Admission in
Pro Hac Vice"&lt;/a&gt;, signed May 21, 2008 by Judge Cabrinha

&lt;li&gt;12. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-notice-request.pdf"&gt;"Request
For Judicial Notice in Support of Eclipse Aviation Corporation's
Opposition to Motion to Quash Subpoena" (sans exhibits)&lt;/a&gt;, dated May
23, 2008 (Exhibit A is Judge Manoukian's opinion in &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-2006-03-15-quash-opinion.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller v. Doe&lt;/i&gt;, No. 1-05-CV-053609
(Cal. Superior Ct., Santa Clara Cty., March 15, 2006)&lt;/a&gt;; for more
documents from the &lt;i&gt;Fuller&lt;/i&gt; case, see &lt;a
href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/05/transcripts-of-hb-fuller-and-krinsky.html"&gt;my
May 29, 2008 article&lt;/a&gt;)


&lt;li&gt;13. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-quash-opposition.pdf"&gt;"Eclipse
Aviation Corporation's Opposition to Motion to Quash Subpoena"&lt;/a&gt;,
dated May 23, 2008 (opposes motion only as to 14 "Unreleased Posters",
starting with "COLDWETMACKERALOFREALITY")

&lt;li&gt;14. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-cases-list.pdf"&gt;"List
of Out-of-State Cases in Support of Eclipse Aviation Corporation's
Response to Motion to Quash Subpoena" (sans exhibits)&lt;/a&gt;, dated May
23, 2008.  The exhibits are:
&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;A. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Immunomedics-vs-Doe-2001-07-11.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Immunomedics,
Inc. v. Jean Doe&lt;/i&gt;, 342 N.J. Super. 160, 775
A.2d 773, No. A-2762-00T1 (N.J. App. Div., July 11, 2001)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;B. &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Insure-New-Mexico-vs-McGonigle-2000-02-11.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Insure New Mexico, LLC v. McGonigle&lt;/i&gt;, 128 N.M. 611, 995
P.2d 1053, No. 2000-NMCA-018 (N.M. Ct. App., February 11, 2000)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;C. &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Sony-Music-vs-Does-2004-07-26.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sony Music Entertainment Inc. et al. v. Does 1-40&lt;/i&gt;, 326
F.Supp.2d 556, No. 1:04-CV-473 (S.D.N.Y July 26, 2004)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;15 (16?). &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-21-Raburn-declaration.pdf"&gt;"Declaration
of Vern Raburn in Support of Eclipse Aviation Corporation's Opposition
to Motion to Quash Subpoena"&lt;/a&gt;, dated May 21, 2008.  (Exhibit A is
the contract that was allegedly breached, the "Eclipse Aviation
Corporation Employee Invention &amp;amp; Non-Disclosure Agreement
(INDA)", dated November 2002; Exhibit B is a "Table of Blogger Posts
That Breached the INDAs".)

&lt;li&gt;16 (15?). &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-Barratt-declaration.pdf"&gt;"Declaration
of Raymond Barratt in Support of Eclipse Aviation Corporation's Opposition
to Motion to Quash Subpoena"&lt;/a&gt;, dated May 23, 2008 (Exhibit A is
"Preserved Posts &amp;ndash; Eclipse Critic Blogspot"; Exhibit B
is an untitled page containing portions of emails that Eclipse claims were written by
its ex-employee Brian Skupa)


&lt;li&gt;17. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-27-Malinski-declaration.pdf"&gt;"Declaration
of Norman Malinski, Esquire"&lt;/a&gt;,
dated May 27, 2008

&lt;li&gt;18. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-30-media-request.pdf"&gt;"Media
Request to Photograph, Record, or Broadcast" (by &lt;code&gt;Eclipse-vs-Does.blogspot.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;, dated May 30, 2008

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-06-03-response-to-media-request.pdf"&gt;
Letter "in response to a Media Request to Photograph, Record, or
Broadcast", from Eclipse to Judge Manoukian&lt;/a&gt;, dated June 3, 2008

&lt;li&gt;19. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-06-03-media-order.pdf"&gt;"Order
on Media Request to Permit Coverage"&lt;/a&gt; (denying request), signed June 3, 2008 by Judge Manoukian

&lt;li&gt;20. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-06-04-media-reply.pdf"&gt;Letter
re: "Requests to record audio of June 6, 2008, 10:00 A.M. hearing",
from Al Petrofsky (&lt;code&gt;Eclipse-vs-Does.blogspot.com&lt;/code&gt;) to Judge
Manoukian&lt;/a&gt;, dated June 4, 2008


&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-06-05-tentative-ruling.pdf"&gt;Tentative
ruling (or lack thereof) for the June 6 hearing on the motion to quash&lt;/a&gt;, posted June 5,
2008

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-06-06-minute-order.pdf"&gt;"Minute
Order &amp;ndash; Civil Law and Motion"&lt;/a&gt;, dated June 6, 2008 (orders
hearing continued to Friday, August 1, 2008 at 10:00 A.M. PDT (1700Z))

&lt;li&gt;21. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-21-supplemental-opposition.pdf"&gt;"Eclipse
Aviation Corporation's Supplement to Opposition to Motion to Quash
Subpoena"&lt;/a&gt;, dated July 21, 2008

&lt;li&gt;22 (?). &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-21-Barratt-declaration.pdf"&gt;"Declaration
of Raymond Barratt in Support of Eclipse Aviation Corporation's
Supplement to Opposition to Motion to Quash Subpoena"&lt;/a&gt;, dated July
21, 2008 (Exhibit A is a "Supplement to Table of Blogger Posts That
Breached the INDAs")

&lt;li&gt;22 (?). &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-21-Storey-declaration.pdf"&gt;"Declaration
of Angela F. Storey, Esq. in Support of Eclipse Aviation Corporation's
Supplement to Opposition to Motion to Quash Subpoena"&lt;/a&gt;, dated July
21, 2008 (Exhibit A is a copy of the "Verified Complaint For Breach of
Contract and Injunctive Relief", verified March 6, 2008, which was
originally filed in the New Mexico court)

&lt;li&gt;"Motion to Continue Hearing on Previously Filed Motion to Quash",
served July 21, 2008 (this is mentioned by both sides in the
subsequent opposition and reply briefs, and I believe a copy was
delivered to the judge's chambers, but it never made it to the court's
official file)

&lt;li&gt;23. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-22-continuance-opposition.pdf"&gt;"Eclipse
Aviation Corporation's Opposition to Motion to Continue Hearing on
Previously Filed Motion to Quash Subpoenas"&lt;/a&gt;, dated July 22, 2008


&lt;li&gt;24. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-22-Thuma-declaration.pdf"&gt;"Declaration
of David T. Thuma in Support of Eclipse Aviation Corporation's
Opposition to Motion to Continue Hearing on Previously Filed Motion to
Quash Subpoenas"&lt;/a&gt;, dated July 22, 2008

&lt;li&gt;25. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-24-consolidated-reply.pdf"&gt;"Reply
of John Does to Opposition to Motion to Continue Hearing and
Supplement to Opposition to Motion to Quash Subpoena"&lt;/a&gt;, dated July 24, 2008

&lt;li&gt;26. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-24-Malinski-Declaration.pdf"&gt;"Declaration
of Norman Malinski, Esquire Replying to Opposition to Continuance and
Supplement to Opposition to Motion to Quash Subpoena"&lt;/a&gt;, dated July 24, 2008

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-25-personal-recording-request.pdf"&gt;Letter
re: "Personal Recording request for August 1, 2008, 10:00 A.M. hearing",
from Al Petrofsky to Judge Manoukian&lt;/a&gt;, dated July 25, 2008 (Exhibit
1 is an excerpt from the transcript of the June 6 hearing)

&lt;li&gt;27. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-25-media-request.pdf"&gt;"Media
Request to Photograph, Record, or Broadcast" (by
&lt;code&gt;Eclipse-vs-Does.blogspot.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;, dated July 25, 2008

&lt;li&gt;28. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-29-media-order.pdf"&gt;"Order
on Media Request to Permit Coverage"&lt;/a&gt; (denying request), signed July 29, 2008 by Judge Manoukian


&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-31-tentative-ruling.pdf"&gt;Tentative
ruling (or lack thereof) for the August 1 hearing on the motion to
quash&lt;/a&gt;, posted July 31, 2008 (states that the matter has been taken
off calendar)

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-08-01-minute-order.pdf"&gt;"Minute
Order &amp;ndash; Civil Law and Motion"&lt;/a&gt;, dated August 1, 2008 (the official
record that the motion to quash was taken off calendar)

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li id="post-2008-06-01-section-1.3"&gt;The Skupa case: &lt;i&gt;ECLIPSE AVIATION CORPORATION vs. BRIAN
SKUPA&lt;/i&gt;, No. D-202-CV-2008-04029, SECOND JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT,
COUNTY OF BERNALILLO, STATE OF NEW MEXICO, filed April 21, 2008.

&lt;br&gt; (This action is discussed in &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-23-quash-opposition.pdf"&gt;Eclipse's
opposition to the motion to quash&lt;/a&gt; (at 3:22-4:5, 4:28, 11:15-18, 11:15-26).  
The complaint is for "breach of contract, breach of covenant
of good faith and fair dealing, breach of the duty of loyalty,
conversion, [and] misappropriation of trade secrets".  The
contract at issue in this case is the same employee agreement at issue
in the
&lt;i&gt;Eclipse v. Does&lt;/i&gt; case.)


&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Skupa-docket.pdf"&gt;Docket
listing&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;!-- (Next court date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 at 9:00 A.M. MDT --&gt;
&lt;!-- (1500Z), on Eclipse's Motion for a Preliminary Injunction, before Judge --&gt;
&lt;!-- Clay P. Campbell in Courtroom 616 at the Bernalillo County Courthouse, --&gt;
&lt;!-- 400 Lomas Blvd NW, Albuquerque NM 87102) --&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li id="post-2008-06-01-section-1.4"&gt;Other cases:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li id="post-2008-06-01-section-1.4.1"&gt;&lt;a id="post-2008-06-01-geiger"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Geiger Excavating Inc v. Eclipse Aviation Corporation&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;,
No. 02D01-0806-PL-281 (Superior Court of Allen County, Indiana, filed June 6, 2008) and
No. 1:08-cv-164 (United States District Court, Northern District of Indiana,
filed July 8, 2008)

&lt;br&gt;(This is an action by a customer seeking return of its $150,000
deposit toward an Eclipse 500 jet)


&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/nefomatic-test-Geiger-vs-Eclipse.html"&gt;Nefomatic
docket listing&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;!-- (Next court date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 at 10:00 A.M. EDT --&gt;
&lt;!-- (1400Z), preliminary pretrial conference before Magistrate Judge --&gt;
&lt;!-- Roger Cosbey on the first floor of the Adair Courthouse, --&gt;
&lt;!-- 1300 S Harrison St, Fort Wayne IN 46802) --&gt;

&lt;li&gt;1. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Geiger-vs-Eclipse-1-2.pdf"&gt;"Complaint"&lt;/a&gt;,
filed June 6, 2008

&lt;li&gt;2. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Geiger-vs-Eclipse-2.pdf"&gt;"Notice
of Removal"&lt;/a&gt;, served July 8, 2008

&lt;li&gt;6. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Geiger-vs-Eclipse-6.pdf"&gt;"Amended
Answer to Complaint"&lt;/a&gt;,
filed July 23, 2008


&lt;li&gt;(See the &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/nefomatic-test-Geiger-vs-Eclipse.html"&gt;docket
listing&lt;/a&gt; for links to some more documents)

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li id="post-2008-06-01-section-1.4.2"&gt;&lt;a
id="post-2008-06-01-ice-blue"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Ice Blue Air Limited v. Eclipse Aviation Corporation&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;,
No. 6:08-cv-728 (United States District Court, District of New Mexico,
filed August 5, 2008)

&lt;br&gt;(This is an action by a customer seeking return of its $180,000
deposit toward an Eclipse 500 jet)

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/nefomatic-test-Ice-Blue-vs-Eclipse.html"&gt;Nefomatic
docket listing&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;li&gt;1. &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Ice-Blue-vs-Eclipse-1.pdf"&gt;"Complaint
For Breach of Contract, Unjust Enrichment, and Conversion"&lt;/a&gt;, filed
August 5, 2008

&lt;li&gt;(See the &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/nefomatic-test-Ice-Blue-vs-Eclipse.html"&gt;docket
listing&lt;/a&gt; for links to some more documents)


&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4 id="post-2008-06-01-section-2"&gt;Links&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li id="post-2008-06-01-section-2.1"&gt;Parties, deponent, etc.:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Plaintiff: &lt;a href="http://eclipseaviation.com"&gt;Eclipse Aviation
Corporation (&lt;code&gt;eclipseaviation.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a
href="https://sos-res.state.de.us/tin/GINameSearch.jsp"&gt;Delaware
corp.&lt;/a&gt; #2973194, incorporated 1998)


&lt;li&gt;Subpoena recipient: &lt;a href="http://google.com"&gt;Google
Inc. (&lt;code&gt;google.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a
href="https://sos-res.state.de.us/tin/GINameSearch.jsp"&gt;Delaware
corp.&lt;/a&gt; #3582691, incorporated 2002) (exact deponent listed on &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-subpoena.pdf"&gt;subpoena&lt;/a&gt;
is "Google Legal Support, Blogger CMCA [sic] Complaints")

&lt;li&gt;Blog specified in the subpoena: &lt;a
href="http://eclipsecriticng.blogspot.com"&gt;Eclipse Aviation Critic NG (&lt;code&gt;eclipsecriticng.blogspot.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;

(&lt;a
href="http://eclipsecriticng.blogspot.com/2008/02/its-time-for-eclipse-critic-ng.html"&gt;first
post&lt;/a&gt; in February 2008)

&lt;li&gt;Media Request filer: &lt;a href="http://Eclipse-vs-Does.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;code&gt;Eclipse-vs-Does.blogspot.com&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
(&lt;a
href="http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/05/initial-filings-in-eclipse-aviation-vs.html"&gt;first
post&lt;/a&gt; in May 2008)

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li id="post-2008-06-01-section-2.2"&gt;Attorneys:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;for Plaintiff Eclipse Aviation: 


&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jtwlawfirm.com/"&gt;Jacobvitz Thuma &amp;amp; Walker PC (&lt;code&gt;jtwlawfirm.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jtwlawfirm.com/thuma.htm"&gt;David Tenbroeck
Thuma&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a
href="http://www.nmbar.org/findattorney/attorneyfinder.aspx"&gt;New
Mexico Bar&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 1989) 
&lt;br&gt;(first bar admission: &lt;a
href="http://www.in.gov/judiciary/cofc/roll-atty.html"&gt;Indiana&lt;/a&gt;,
#2200-49, admitted 1984)

&lt;br&gt;(admitted pro hac vice in California case by &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-21-order-PHV.pdf"&gt;order
dated May 21, 2008&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jtwlawfirm.com/jacobvitz.htm"&gt;Robert
H. Jacobvitz&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a
href="http://www.nmbar.org/findattorney/attorneyfinder.aspx"&gt;New
Mexico Bar&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 1979)

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://millermorton.com/"&gt;Miller Morton Caillat &amp;amp; Nevis
(&lt;code&gt;millermorton.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://millermorton.com/attorneys/afs.html"&gt;Angela Foster Storey&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a
href="http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_detail.aspx?x=217942"&gt;California
Bar #217942&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 2001)

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;for Defendant John Doe:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Norman Malinski (&lt;a
href="http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/MESearch"&gt;Florida Bar&lt;/a&gt;

#182344, admitted 1974)

&lt;br&gt;(admitted pro hac vice in California case by &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-05-order-PHV.pdf"&gt;order
dated May 5, 2008&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;br&gt;(deemed admitted in New Mexico case upon filing of
affidavit on July 8, 2008, per &lt;a href="http://www.conwaygreene.com/nmsu/lpext.dll/nmsu2008july/23e9d/23ec1/2440d/24443?f=templates&amp;amp;fn=document-frame.htm&amp;amp;2.0"&gt;NMRA 1-089.1&lt;/a&gt;(A))

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.rodey.com/"&gt;Rodey Dickason Sloan Akin &amp; Robb
(&lt;code&gt;rodey.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.rodey.com/attorneys/AGS.html"&gt;Andrew G. Schultz&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a
href="http://www.nmbar.org/findattorney/attorneyfinder.aspx"&gt;New
Mexico Bar&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 1984)


&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://jacobsonlawgroup.com/"&gt;The Jacobson Law Group
(&lt;code&gt;jacobsonlawgroup.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Warren Stephen Jacobson (&lt;a
href="http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_detail.aspx?x=61607"&gt;California
Bar #61607&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 1974)

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li id="post-2008-06-01-section-2.3"&gt;Judges:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;New Mexico District Court:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://www.nmcourts.com/seconddistrictcourt/judges2.html"&gt;Hon. Linda
M. Vanzi&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a
href="http://www.votevanzi.com"&gt;&lt;code&gt;votevanzi.com&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;) (&lt;a
href="http://www.nmbar.org/findattorney/attorneyfinder.aspx"&gt;New
Mexico Bar&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 1995; appointed to bench in 2004)

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;California Superior Court:


&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.sccsuperiorcourt.org/contact/contacts_downtownsuperiorcourt.htm#Downtown%20Superior%20Court%20Departments,%20Clerks%20and%20Reporters%20phone%20numbers"&gt;Hon.
Socrates Peter Manoukian&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a
href="http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_search.aspx?ms=Socrates+Manoukian"&gt;California
Bar #77289&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 1977; appointed to bench in 1993)

&lt;li&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.sccsuperiorcourt.org/contact/contacts_downtownsuperiorcourt.htm#Downtown%20Superior%20Court%20Departments,%20Clerks%20and%20Reporters%20phone%20numbers"&gt;Hon.
Neal A. Cabrinha&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a
href="http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_search.aspx?ms=Neal+Cabrinha"&gt;California
Bar #40710&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 1967; appointed to bench in 1997)

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li id="post-2008-06-01-section-2.4"&gt;Case information direct from courts:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;New Mexico case: &lt;a
href="http://www.nmcourts.gov/caselookup"&gt;&lt;code&gt;http://www.nmcourts.gov/caselookup&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;California case:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://sccaseinfo.org/"&gt;&lt;code&gt;http://sccaseinfo.org/&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://sccsuperiorcourt.org/civil/Dept7rulings.htm"&gt;&lt;code&gt;http://sccsuperiorcourt.org/civil/Dept7rulings.htm&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://sccaseinfo.org/pa6.asp?full_case_number=1-08-CV-110380"&gt;&lt;code&gt;http://sccaseinfo.org/pa6.asp?full_case_number=1-08-CV-110380&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://sccaseinfo.org/pa6.asp?process_name=process_calendar_case_number&amp;amp;start_date=&amp;amp;end_date=3000&amp;amp;case_number=108CV110380"&gt;&lt;code&gt;http://sccaseinfo.org/pa6.asp?process_name=process_calendar_case_number&amp;amp;
&lt;br&gt;start_date=&amp;amp;end_date=3000&amp;amp;case_number=108CV110380&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li id="post-2008-06-01-section-2.5"&gt;California law:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;From &lt;code&gt;leginfo.ca.gov&lt;/code&gt;:
&lt;a href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/const-toc.html"&gt;Constitution&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/statute.html"&gt;Statutes&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html"&gt;Codes&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/calawquery?codesection=ccp"&gt;Code of
Civil Procedure&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/calawquery?codesection=evid"&gt;Evidence
Code&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/calawquery?codesection=gov"&gt;Government
Code&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://courtinfo.ca.gov/rules/"&gt;California Rules of
Court (&lt;code&gt;courtinfo.ca.gov/rules&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Case law:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://lexisnexis.com/clients/CACourts/"&gt;California
Official Reports (&lt;code&gt;lexisnexis.com/clients/CACourts&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;br&gt;This is a page at &lt;code&gt;lexisnexis.com&lt;/code&gt; that is free but requires
click-through acceptance of terms and conditions.  It provides access
to all of California's precedential appellate opinions, going all the
way back to the first California Supreme Court opinions in March 1850
(six months before California's admission to the Union).
Unfortunately, it does not include any of the page numbers within an
opinion, which makes it impossible to generate an official pinpoint
citation.

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.findlaw.com/cacases/index.html"&gt;California
Case Law (&lt;code&gt;findlaw.com/cacases&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;br&gt;This page is free but requires
registration and login.  It provides published opinions back to 1934, and
includes the official page numbers.


&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/opinarch.htm"&gt;Slip
Opinions Archive (&lt;code&gt;courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/opinarch.htm&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;br&gt;This page provides access to the original filed versions, direct
from the courts, of all published opinions since 2000.  Unlike either
of the other two sources above, this page does not require any logging
in or clicking an "I agree" button or any other nonsense, and every
opinion has its own simple URL that you can directly link to from a
web page.

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li id="post-2008-06-01-section-2.6"&gt;New Mexico law:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.supremecourtlawlibrary.org/"&gt;New Mexico Supreme
Court Law Library (&lt;code&gt;supremecourtlawlibrary.org&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;
(includes links to statutes, rules, and case law)


&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h4 id="post-2008-06-01-section-3"&gt;List of additions&lt;/h4&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Added 2008-07-31:
&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt; &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-25-personal-recording-request.pdf"&gt;Letter
re: "Personal Recording request for August 1, 2008, 10:00
A.M. hearing"&lt;/a&gt;, dated July 25 (includes an excerpt from the
transcript of the June 6 hearing)

&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Geiger-vs-Eclipse-1-2.pdf"&gt;Complaint&lt;/a&gt;,

&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Geiger-vs-Eclipse-6.pdf"&gt;Answer&lt;/a&gt;,
and other documents in the &lt;a
href="#post-2008-06-01-geiger"&gt;new &lt;i&gt;Geiger v. Eclipse&lt;/i&gt; section&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Added 2008-08-02:
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;This list of additions

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-2008-03-18-sealing-order.pdf"&gt;"Order
Granting Eclipse Aviation Corporation's Motion to Seal Verified
Complaint For Breach of Contract and Injunctive Relief and to Seal
This Motion"&lt;/a&gt;, filed March 18, 2008

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-31-tentative-ruling.pdf"&gt;Tentative
ruling (or lack thereof) for the August 1 hearing on the motion to
quash&lt;/a&gt;, posted July 31, 2008 (states that the matter has been taken
off calendar)

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Added 2008-08-06:
&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="#post-2008-06-01-ice-blue"&gt;New &lt;i&gt;Ice Blue v. Eclipse&lt;/i&gt;
section&lt;/a&gt;, including the &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Ice-Blue-vs-Eclipse-1.pdf"&gt;Complaint&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Added 2008-08-19:
&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-2008-03-06-complaint.pdf"&gt;"Verified
Complaint For Breach of Contract and Injunctive Relief"&lt;/a&gt;, verified
March 6, 2008 by Bruce Castle (filed March 18, 2008)


&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-21-supplemental-opposition.pdf"&gt;"Eclipse
Aviation Corporation's Supplement to Opposition to Motion to Quash
Subpoena"&lt;/a&gt;, dated July 21, 2008, and the supporting &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-21-Barratt-declaration.pdf"&gt;Barratt
Declaration&lt;/a&gt; (includes a "Supplement to Table of Blogger Posts That
Breached the INDAs") and &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-21-Storey-declaration.pdf"&gt;Storey
declaration&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-22-continuance-opposition.pdf"&gt;"Eclipse
Aviation Corporation's Opposition to Motion to Continue Hearing on
Previously Filed Motion to Quash Subpoenas"&lt;/a&gt;, dated July 22, 2008,
and the supporting &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-22-Thuma-declaration.pdf"&gt;Thuma
declaration&lt;/a&gt; (the motion this opposes is not on file with the Clerk
of Court).

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-24-consolidated-reply.pdf"&gt;"Reply
of John Does to Opposition to Motion to Continue Hearing and
Supplement to Opposition to Motion to Quash Subpoena"&lt;/a&gt;, dated July
24, 2008, and the supporting &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-07-24-Malinski-Declaration.pdf"&gt;Malinski
declaration&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-08-01-minute-order.pdf"&gt;"Minute
Order &amp;ndash; Civil Law and Motion"&lt;/a&gt;, dated August 1, 2008 (the
official record that the motion to quash was taken off calendar)


&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7998609517132732266-5236927806871257052?l=eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default/5236927806871257052'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default/5236927806871257052'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/06/eclipse-aviation-vs-does-court.html' title='Eclipse Aviation vs. Does: court documents and links'/><author><name>Al Petrofsky</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00521212742095753420</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7998609517132732266.post-1048715107218628270</id><published>2008-05-29T15:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-25T19:48:36.907-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Transcripts of the H.B. Fuller and Krinsky hearings before Judge Manoukian</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;Below are edifying and entertaining transcripts of two past hearings
before Judge Socrates Manoukian on motions similar to the one that is
scheduled to be heard before him on Friday, June 6, 2008, in the
&lt;i&gt;Eclipse Aviation vs. Does&lt;/i&gt; case.

&lt;p&gt;But first, here's a quick update on the &lt;i&gt;Eclipse&lt;/i&gt; case: My
understanding, from my conversations with deputy clerks, is that on
Friday, May 23, Eclipse filed an opposition memorandum to John Doe's
motion to quash the subpoena.  Eclipse also filed supporting
documentation and evidence, in the form of two declarations (&lt;a
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=ccp&amp;amp;group=02001-03000&amp;amp;file=2009-2015.6"&gt;CCP
2015.5&lt;/a&gt;) and a request for judicial notice (&lt;A
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=evid&amp;amp;group=00001-01000&amp;amp;file=450-460"&gt;EC
453&lt;/a&gt;).  I haven't seen any of this yet.  The court's copies are
currently with the research staff, who are preparing a pre-hearing
report for Judge Manoukian.  Eventually the documents will be returned
to the records department, where they will be available for public
inspection.  I understand that Eclipse is not seeking to file anything
under seal, which surprises me a little bit in light of the complaint
in the underlying New Mexico case having been sealed.  I guess the
documentation that Eclipse has filed in California does not include
all of the information that was found in the sealed complaint, and
Eclipse believes that Judge Manoukian will have sufficient grounds to
deny Doe's motion without seeing the full complaint.  (Alternatively,
Eclipse may have included a full copy of the complaint, after deciding
that there is no longer any need for it to be kept under seal.)  John
Doe's reply papers are due Friday, May 30 (per &lt;a
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=ccp&amp;amp;group=01001-02000&amp;amp;file=1003-1008"&gt;CCP
1005&lt;/a&gt;(b)).


&lt;p&gt;Back to the transcripts: the two prior cases are &lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller
v. Doe&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Krinsky v. Does&lt;/i&gt;.  In both cases, as well as in
the &lt;i&gt;Eclipse&lt;/i&gt; case: (1) litigation was commenced outside of
California, against anonymous defendants, pertaining to statements
posted on the internet; (2) a subpoena was issued out of California
Superior Court, Santa Clara County, to obtain information about the
defendants from Yahoo or Google; and (3) the anonymous defendants
filed motions to quash the subpoena, which were heard by Judge
Manoukian.  

&lt;p&gt;Read the transcripts, and you'll see that Judge Manoukian is very
active and free-wheeling at oral argument.  His first question to the
Fuller plaintiff was "who cares about what some nut case on the
Internet wrote about anybody" (&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-appeal-2006-07-13-reporter-transcript.pdf"&gt;Fuller
transcript&lt;/a&gt; at 4:10), and he asked Krinsky, "First of all, who
believes maniacs who post anonymous crap on the internet anyway?" (&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Krinsky-vs-Does-CA-2006-04-28-transcript.pdf"&gt;Krinsky
transcript&lt;/a&gt; at 14:6).  (He quickly clarified: "The word crap, I
didn't mean in a pejorative sense in the context of this case, just in
general.  And I shouldn't use words like that on the record."
&lt;i&gt;Id.&lt;/i&gt; at 14:10-12.)


&lt;p&gt;In both cases, Judge Manoukian denied the Doe's motion.  However,
neither Doe's identity was ever revealed.  In &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt;,
Manoukian's decision was reversed on appeal (&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/H030767.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Krinsky
v. Doe 6&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (2008), 159 Cal.App.4th 1154), and in
&lt;i&gt;Fuller&lt;/i&gt;, the plaintiff eventually withdrew the subpoena, after
the appellate court ruled that it would not consider any sealed
evidence when deciding whether or not to reverse Manoukian's order.
&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-appeal-2007-05-31-unsealing-opinion.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller
v. Doe&lt;/i&gt; (2007), 151 Cal.App.4th 879&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;p&gt;The &lt;i&gt;Fuller&lt;/i&gt; case has more in common with &lt;i&gt;Eclipse&lt;/i&gt; than

&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; does, because the underlying complaints in
&lt;i&gt;Fuller&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Eclipse&lt;/i&gt; are both for breach of contract.  The
&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; complaint, in contrast, was for defamation.  However,
only the &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; case proceeded to a precedential opinion on
the merits from the appellate court, and it is that appellate decision
that the
&lt;i&gt;Eclipse&lt;/i&gt; John Doe cited extensively in his opening brief on his
motion.


&lt;p&gt;(Regarding the legends on the transcripts that state "Copying
Prohibited Pursuant to &lt;a
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=gov&amp;amp;group=69001-70000&amp;amp;file=69941-69958"&gt;GC
69954&lt;/a&gt;(d)": that code section only prohibits conduct by people who
have "purchased a transcript".  In cases that have not been appealed,
purchasing a transcript from the reporter is usually the only way to
obtain a transcript.  However, once a case has been appealed and the
reporter's transcript has been filed, any member of the public may
copy or electronically scan the transcript in the records room at the
Court of Appeal (which is how I obtained my copies).)


&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Update on July 25, 2008&lt;/b&gt;: I've now added an &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Krinsky-vs-Does-CA-appeal-2008-01-08-audio.mp3"&gt;audio
recording (51MB mp3)&lt;/a&gt; of the 53-minute oral argument in the
&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; case, before Presiding Justice Conrad Rushing and
Associate Justices Eugene Premo and Franklin Elia.  This is the same
unanimous panel that made the decision in the
&lt;i&gt;Fuller&lt;/i&gt; case. (There was never any oral argument in
&lt;i&gt;Fuller&lt;/i&gt;.)

&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Documents&lt;/b&gt;:


&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller Company v. John Doe&lt;/i&gt;, No. 1-05-CV-053609,
SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA, SANTA CLARA COUNTY.

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-2006-01-27-sealing-order.pdf"&gt;"Stipulation
and Order re: Filing Documents Under Seal in Connection With John
Doe's Motion to Quash Subpoena Issued by H.B. Fuller"&lt;/a&gt;, dated
January 27, 2006

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-2006-02-26-Bohnen-declaration.pdf"&gt;"Declaration
of Shane V. Bohnen in Support of H.B. Fuller Company's Opposition to
John Does' Motion to Quash Subpoena"&lt;/a&gt;, dated February 26, 2006
(includes attached undated, unsigned "Complaint" that Bohnen states he
attempted to file in Minnesota on November 29, 2005)

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-2006-03-15-quash-opinion.pdf"&gt;"Order
Denying Motion of Defendant to Quash Out-of-State Subpoena"&lt;/a&gt;, dated
March 15, 2006

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-appeal-2006-04-24-stay-order.pdf"&gt;Stay
order&lt;/a&gt; in appeal H030099, dated April 24, 2006

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-2006-04-26-compliance-order.pdf"&gt;"Order Granting H.B. Fuller's Ex Parte Application Seeking Yahoo!'s
Immediate Compliance [with] the March 15, 2006 Order"&lt;/a&gt;, dated April 26, 2006


&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-appeal-2006-07-13-reporter-transcript.pdf"&gt;"Reporter's
Transcript on Appeal From the Judgment of the Superior Court of the
State of California in and for the County of Santa Clara Before the
Honorable Socrates Peter Manoukian, Judge -- Proceedings Held on
February 10, April 18, &amp;amp; April 24, 2006"&lt;/a&gt;, certified July 13, 2006

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-appeal-2007-05-31-unsealing-opinion.pdf"&gt;Opinion&lt;/a&gt; in appeal H030099
(granting a motion to unseal), dated May 31, 2007.

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-appeal-2008-02-25-dismissal-stipulation.pdf"&gt;"Stipulated
Request for Dismissal of Appeal"&lt;/a&gt;, dated February 25, 2008.

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-appeal-2008-03-04-dismissal.pdf"&gt;"Dismissal
of Appeal"&lt;/a&gt;, dated March 4, 2008.

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Lisa Krinsky v. Does 1 through 10&lt;/i&gt;, No. 1-06-CV-059796,
SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA, SANTA CLARA COUNTY.

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Krinsky-vs-Does-FL-2006-01-19-complaint.pdf"&gt;"Complaint
for Injunctive Relief and Damages"&lt;/a&gt;, dated January 19, 2006 (filed
in Florida 17th Circuit, Case No. 06-000802)

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Krinsky-vs-Does-CA-2006-04-28-transcript.pdf"&gt;"Reporter's
Transcript of Proceedings Held on April 28, 2006"&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Krinsky-vs-Does-CA-2006-07-05-briefing-order.pdf"&gt;"Order for Further Briefing"&lt;/a&gt;, dated July 5, 2006.

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Krinsky-vs-Does-CA-2006-07-21-Krinsky-supplemental-brief.pdf"&gt;"Plaintiff's
Further Briefing as Ordered by the Court"&lt;/a&gt;, dated July 21, 2006

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Krinsky-vs-Does-CA-2006-10-16-quash-opinion.pdf"&gt;"Order
on Discovery Motions"&lt;/a&gt;, dated October 16, 2006 (which incorporates
the Plaintiff's supplemental brief).

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Krinsky-vs-Does-CA-appeal-2008-01-08-audio.mp3"&gt;Audio
recording (51MB mp3)&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Krinsky-vs-Does-CA-appeal-2008-01-08-minutes.pdf"&gt;minutes&lt;/a&gt;
of the 53-minute oral argument in appeal H030767 on January 8, 2008,
before Presiding Justice Conrad Rushing and Associate Justices Eugene
Premo and Franklin Elia.  Lawrence Hoyle argued for Appellant Doe 6
and Robert Pearce for Respondent Krinsky.


&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/H030767.pdf"&gt;Opinion&lt;/a&gt;
disposing of appeal H030767 (lower court is reversed), dated February 6, 2008.

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7998609517132732266-1048715107218628270?l=eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default/1048715107218628270'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default/1048715107218628270'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/05/transcripts-of-hb-fuller-and-krinsky.html' title='Transcripts of the H.B. Fuller and Krinsky hearings before Judge Manoukian'/><author><name>Al Petrofsky</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00521212742095753420</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7998609517132732266.post-2124405536525506826</id><published>2008-05-19T19:25:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-20T09:58:02.926-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Motion to quash subpoena to be heard June 6 by Judge Manoukian</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;A motion
to quash the subpoena has been noticed
to be heard at 10:00 A.M. on Friday, June 6, 2008 before Judge
Socrates Peter Manoukian in Department 7 of the Santa Clara County
Superior Court (third floor of the new courthouse, 191 North First
Street, San Jose).  See the  &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-07-quash-notice.pdf"&gt;notice&lt;/a&gt;
and &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-07-quash-memo.pdf"&gt;motion&lt;/a&gt;
that were filed on May 14 in &lt;i&gt;Eclipse Aviation
Corporation v. John Doe et al.&lt;/i&gt;, Case No. 1-08-CV-110380.  (There
is a listing of more court documents below.)

&lt;p&gt;Eclipse's written opposition to the motion is due on Friday, May 23
(per &lt;a href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=ccp&amp;amp;group=01001-02000&amp;amp;file=1003-1008"&gt;CCP 1005&lt;/a&gt;(b) and &lt;a
href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=gov&amp;amp;group=06001-07000&amp;amp;file=6700-6720"&gt;GC
6700&lt;/a&gt;(g)).


&lt;p&gt;The &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-07-quash-memo.pdf"&gt;memo&lt;/a&gt;
argues &amp;mdash; principally citing the recent opinion in &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/H030767.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Krinsky
v. Doe 6&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 159 Cal.App.4th 1154 (6th Dist., February 6, 2008)
&amp;mdash; that Eclipse must "make a prima facia showing that a claim exists"
(memo at p. 5) and "explore alternative relief" that "would be less
intrusive than disclosure" (&lt;i&gt;Id.&lt;/i&gt; at p. 6).

&lt;p&gt;A couple notes:

&lt;p&gt;1. &amp;emsp; It's not exactly clear to me on whose behalf attorney Norman
Malinski filed this motion.  He says that the motion is being made by
"JOHN DOE", singular, with no indication of which of the 28 Google
accounts named on &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-subpoena.pdf"&gt;the
subpoena&lt;/a&gt; (Turn-and-Burn, et al.) have been used by his client(s).
He also states that the Defendants who were sued in the underlying
case in New Mexico (Doe, et al.) are the same set of people as those
who used the Google accounts (Turn-and-Burn, et al.):


&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Deposition Subpoena seeks ... information with respect to a series
of individuals (identified in the underlying Complaint as JOHN DOES or
JANE DOES) using the posting identity or identities enumerated on Page
2 of the Deposition Subpoena.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(memo at p. 1).  I don't think this is necessarily correct.  As far
as I can see, it is possible that the defendants are people who have
entered into some contract with Eclipse (most likely current or former
employees), whom Eclipse alleges breached the contract by providing
some information to a completely different set of people
(Turn-and-Burn, et al.), who then posted the information to the
EclipseCriticNG blog.  If so, then in that respect this case may be
more like &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/H028579.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;O'Grady
et al. v. Superior Court (Apple)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 139 Cal.App.4th 1423 (6th Dist., 2006), in
which the anonymous person who sought to quash the subpoena was not,
himself, a defendant (&lt;i&gt;Id.&lt;/i&gt; at sec. V(b)(1), &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/H028579.pdf"&gt;slip
op.&lt;/a&gt; p. 52-54).

&lt;p&gt;Eclipse may need to make it clear who is or is not a defendant.  The
&lt;i&gt;O'Grady&lt;/i&gt; court wrote:


&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apple cannot have it both ways. If it is unprepared to charge
petitioners with liability for trade secret misappropriation, it
cannot count in its favor their status vis &amp;aacute; vis the
litigation, however culpable it may claim them to be.

&lt;p&gt;... To accept Apple's position on the present point would empower
betrayed employers to clothe themselves with the subpoena power merely
by suing fictitious defendants, and then to use that power solely to
identify treacherous employees for purposes of discipline, all without
any intent of pursuing the underlying case to judgment.  An employer
pursuing such an objective might prefer not to join any defendants
lest it expose itself to negative consequences up to and including a
countersuit for malicious prosecution or abuse of process.  Our
sympathy for employers in such a position cannot blind us to the gross
impropriety of using the courts and their powers of compulsory process
as a tool and adjunct of an employer's personnel department.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt; (&lt;i&gt;O'Grady&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/H028579.pdf"&gt;slip
op.&lt;/a&gt; p. 53-54)



&lt;p&gt;2. &amp;emsp; The memo asserts that, as part of the prima facie claim analysis,
"the Court is required to determine whether any statements are
statements of fact, statements of opinion, satirical statements or
otherwise. See &lt;i&gt;Highfields [Capital Management, LP v. Doe&lt;/i&gt;, 385
F.Supp 2d 969 (N.D. Cal. 2005)]" (memo at p. 5).  I don't see how such
a determination would be relevant, because Eclipse (unlike the
plaintiffs in
&lt;i&gt;Highfields&lt;/i&gt; and
&lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt;) has not sued anyone for defamation.  Eclipse's
sealed complaint is "for breach of contract and injunctive relief", according
to &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-docket-as-of-2008-05-19.pdf"&gt;the
New Mexico docket&lt;/a&gt;, and while making "statements of fact" cannot
constitute defamation, it can certainly
constitute a breach of contract when the contract is a non-disclosure
agreement (which is what I am guessing the contract in this case is).

&lt;p&gt;3. &amp;emsp; I assume Eclipse will soon be providing the court and the movant
with the specifics of the alleged breach of contract, and that most of
these specifics will be put in the public record &amp;mdash; especially as to
any information that was allegedly wrongly disclosed, and was
allegedly confidential at the time of disclosure, but which is clearly
not confidential at the present time (i.e., it's out of the bag).  A
year ago, the Sixth District wrote the following about H.B. Fuller Company, an
employer that sought to unmask a Yahoo poster by way of a
California subpoena.  Fuller did not provide much detail about its
allegations to the court or to the defendant, and it provided even
less detail to the public:

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If plaintiff specified the particular disclosures of which it
complains, it would ease defendant's task of refuting the claim that
those disclosures concerned "confidential information" as defined in
the nondisclosure agreement.  It would also open plaintiff's
allegations to the response that even if a given disclosure fell
within that definition, the matter disclosed was already or otherwise
available to the public, such that the disclosure did not proximately
cause plaintiff to sustain recoverable damages.  The very nebulousness
of the claimed breach suggests the possibility that plaintiff's
objective was never to pursue a cause of action to judgment but only
to employ the process of the court to aid an investigation into what
it supposes to be a breach of corporate security.  We have previously
noted "the gross impropriety of using the courts and their powers of
compulsory process as a tool and adjunct of an employer's personnel
department." (&lt;i&gt;O'Grady v. Superior Court&lt;/i&gt; (2006) 139 Cal.App.4th 1423,
1470.)

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(&lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller
v. Doe&lt;/i&gt;, 151 Cal.App.4th 879, &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-appeal-2007-05-31-unsealing-opinion.pdf"&gt;slip op.&lt;/a&gt; at p. 20 (6th Dist., May 31, 2007))

&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At the heart of some discovery motions are questions of great
significance to members of the public.  The present case is one of
them.  While it may be said to arise from a "discovery motion" &amp;mdash; a
motion to quash a discovery subpoena &amp;mdash; the discovery in question is
not merely ancillary or preliminary to some larger litigation but is
the whole end and purpose of the case, at least insofar as California
courts are concerned.  Moreover, the information sought is invested
with a substantial constitutional interest, i.e., the First Amendment
right to speak anonymously.  (See &lt;i&gt;Rancho Publications v. Superior
Court&lt;/i&gt; (1999) 68 Cal.App.4th 1538, 1547.) The court's denial of the
motion to quash did not merely determine some ancillary procedural
point but, if affirmed by this court, inflicts upon a citizen an
irrevocable loss of that constitutional interest.  While no historical
analog for such a proceeding comes readily to mind, the structural
utility of allowing public access in a case of this kind is at least
as great as that of allowing public access to a routine civil trial.
Public scrutiny will encourage judicial actors to take pains to act
with solicitude for cherished constitutional rights, and will help
would-be anonymous speakers to ascertain the standards which will
govern a judicial decision to strip them of anonymity.  The deeper the
public's understanding of judicial treatment of these issues, the
better equipped the public will be to, for instance, seek legislative
modification of the governing rules and procedures.  A court's
decision to lift the constitutionally infused shield of anonymity is,
in short, a matter of deep and legitimate public concern, and that
concern is significantly impaired whenever such a decision is made, as
it was here, upon secret evidence.


&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(&lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-appeal-2007-05-31-unsealing-opinion.pdf"&gt;slip
op.&lt;/a&gt; at 15)

&lt;p&gt; By the way, Judge Manoukian, who will be presiding at the June 6
hearing in &lt;i&gt;Eclipse v. Does&lt;/i&gt;, was also the lower-court judge in both the
&lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Krinsky&lt;/i&gt; cases.


&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Documents&lt;/b&gt;:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;The New Mexico case: &lt;i&gt;ECLIPSE AVIATION CORPORATION, a Delaware Corporation vs. JOHN DOE;
JANE DOE; And various other unknown individuals designated VARIOUS
DOES&lt;/i&gt;, No. D-202-CV-2008-02624, SECOND JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT,
COUNTY OF BERNALILLO, STATE OF NEW MEXICO

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-docket-as-of-2008-05-19.pdf"&gt;Docket
listing, as of May 19, 2008&lt;/a&gt;


&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-2008-04-10-commission.pdf"&gt;"Commission to Issue and/or Obtain Subpoena in California"&lt;/a&gt;, filed April
10, 2008

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;The California case: &lt;i&gt;ECLIPSE AVIATION CORPORATION, a Delaware Corporation vs. JOHN DOE;
JANE DOE; and various other unknown individuals designated VARIOUS
DOES, and DOES 1 through 500&lt;/i&gt;, No. 1-08-CV-110380, SUPERIOR COURT
OF CALIFORNIA, SANTA CLARA COUNTY

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-docket-as-of-2008-05-07.html"&gt;Docket
listing, as of May 7, 2008&lt;/a&gt; (as of May 19, 2008, the court's case
information website, &lt;a
href="http://sccaseinfo.org/"&gt;&lt;code&gt;sccaseinfo.org&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, is
"down for system maintenance until further notice", and has been so
for more than 10 days)

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-cover-sheet.pdf"&gt;"Civil
Case Cover Sheet"&lt;/a&gt;, dated April 14, 2008

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-Storey-declaration.pdf"&gt;"Declaration of Angela F. Storey in Support of Order to Issue Subpoena
in California For Action Outside State"&lt;/a&gt;, dated April 14, 2008

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-subpoena.pdf"&gt;"Deposition
Subpoena for Production of Business Records"&lt;/a&gt;, dated April 14, 2008


&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-02-application-PHV.pdf"&gt;"Application
of Norman Malinski For Admission in Pro Hac Vice"&lt;/a&gt;, dated May 2, 2008

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-02-notice-PHV.pdf"&gt;"Notice of
Filing" (of letter re: pro hac vice application)&lt;/a&gt;, served May 2, 2008

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-05-order-PHV.pdf"&gt;"Order on
Application of Norman Malinski, Esquire For Admission in Pro Hac
Vice"&lt;/a&gt;, dated May 5, 2008

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-07-quash-memo.pdf"&gt;"Motion
to Quash and Supporting Memorandum of Points and Authorities"&lt;/a&gt;,
dated May 7, 2008 (filed May 14, 2008) (see also &lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-07-quash-memo-text.pdf"&gt;this
draft version with electronic text&lt;/a&gt;, which I found at &lt;a
href="http://charterx.com"&gt;&lt;code&gt;charterx.com&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (note:
pagination differs from the filed version))

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-05-07-quash-notice.pdf"&gt;"Notice
of Motion and Motion to Quash Subpoena"&lt;/a&gt;, dated May 7, 2008 (filed
May 14, 2008)

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;A not-necessarily-related New Mexico case: &lt;i&gt;ECLIPSE AVIATION
CORPORATION vs. BRIAN SKUPA&lt;/i&gt;, No. D-202-CV-2008-04029, SECOND
JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT, COUNTY OF BERNALILLO, STATE OF NEW MEXICO
&lt;br&gt;(According to the docket, this is a case for "breach of contract,
breach of covenant of good faith and fair dealing, breach of the duty
of loyalty, conversion, [and] misappropriatioin of trade secrets".
I'm just guessing that the contracts at issue in this case and in
&lt;i&gt;Eclipse v. Does&lt;/i&gt; are both non-disclosure agreements between
Eclipse and some of its current or former employees.)

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a
href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Skupa-docket-as-of-2008-05-19.pdf"&gt;Docket
listing, as of May 19, 2008&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Links&lt;/b&gt;:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Plaintiff: &lt;a href="http://eclipseaviation.com"&gt;Eclipse Aviation (&lt;code&gt;eclipseaviation.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Subpoena recipient: &lt;a href="http://google.com"&gt;Google Inc. (&lt;code&gt;google.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Blog specified in the subpoena: &lt;a
href="http://eclipsecriticng.blogspot.com"&gt;Eclipse Aviation Critic NG (&lt;code&gt;eclipsecriticng.blogspot.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Lawyers:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;New Mexico counsel for Plaintiff: 
&lt;a href="http://www.jtwlawfirm.com/"&gt;Jacobvitz Thuma &amp;amp; Walker PC (&lt;code&gt;jtwlawfirm.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;ul&gt;


&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jtwlawfirm.com/thuma.htm"&gt;David Tenbroeck Thuma&lt;/a&gt; (first bar admission: &lt;a
href="http://www.in.gov/judiciary/cofc/roll-atty.html"&gt;Indiana&lt;/a&gt;,
#2200-49, admitted 1984)

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jtwlawfirm.com/jacobvitz.htm"&gt;Robert
H. Jacobvitz&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a
href="http://www.nmbar.org/findattorney/attorneyfinder.aspx"&gt;New
Mexico Bar&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 1979)

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;California counsel for Plaintiff:

&lt;a href="http://millermorton.com/"&gt;Miller Morton Caillat &amp;amp; Nevis
(&lt;code&gt;millermorton.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://millermorton.com/attorneys/afs.html"&gt;Angela Foster Storey&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a
href="http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_detail.aspx?x=217942"&gt;California
Bar #217942&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 2001)

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Florida counsel for John Doe: Norman Malinski (&lt;a
href="http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/MESearch"&gt;Florida Bar&lt;/a&gt;
#182344, admitted 1974)

&lt;li&gt;California counsel for John Doe:

&lt;a href="http://jacobsonlawgroup.com/"&gt;The Jacobson Law Group
(&lt;code&gt;jacobsonlawgroup.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Warren Stephen Jacobson (&lt;a
href="http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_detail.aspx?x=61607"&gt;California
Bar #61607&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 1974)

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Judge assigned to New Mexico case: &lt;a
href="http://www.nmcourts.com/seconddistrictcourt/judges2.html"&gt;Hon. Linda
M. Vanzi&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a
href="http://www.votevanzi.com"&gt;&lt;code&gt;votevanzi.com&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;) (&lt;a
href="http://www.nmbar.org/findattorney/attorneyfinder.aspx"&gt;New
Mexico Bar&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 1995; appointed to bench in 2004)


&lt;li&gt;Judge assigned to California case: &lt;a href="http://www.sccsuperiorcourt.org/contact/contacts_downtownsuperiorcourt.htm#Downtown%20Superior%20Court%20Departments,%20Clerks%20and%20Reporters%20phone%20numbers"&gt;Hon.
Socrates Peter Manoukian&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a
href="http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_search.aspx?ms=Socrates+Manoukian"&gt;California
Bar #77289&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 1977; appointed to bench in 1993)

&lt;li&gt;New Mexico court case information: &lt;a
href="http://www.nmcourts.gov/caselookup"&gt;&lt;code&gt;http://www.nmcourts.gov/caselookup&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;California court case information (as of May 19, 2008, the court's case
information website is
"down for system maintenance until further notice", and has been so
for more than 10 days, but here are some links that should start
working again at some point):

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://sccaseinfo.org/"&gt;&lt;code&gt;http://sccaseinfo.org/&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://sccaseinfo.org/pa5.asp?full_case_number=1-08-CV-110380"&gt;&lt;code&gt;http://sccaseinfo.org/pa5.asp?full_case_number=1-08-CV-110380&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://sccaseinfo.org/pa5.asp?process_name=process_calendar_case_number&amp;amp;end_date=3000&amp;amp;case_number=108CV110380"&gt;&lt;code&gt;http://sccaseinfo.org/pa5.asp?process_name=
&lt;br&gt;process_calendar_case_number&amp;amp;end_date=3000&amp;amp;case_number=108CV110380&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;California law:

&lt;ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;From &lt;code&gt;leginfo.ca.gov&lt;/code&gt;:

&lt;a href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/const-toc.html"&gt;Constitution&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/statute.html"&gt;Statutes&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html"&gt;Codes&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/calawquery?codebody=&amp;amp;hits=20&amp;amp;codesection=ccp"&gt;Code of
Civil Procedure&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;li&gt;Case law:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lexisnexis.com/clients/CACourts/"&gt;California
Official Reports&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;This is a free page at
&lt;code&gt;lexisnexis.com&lt;/code&gt; that provides access to all of
California's precedential appellate opinions, going all the way back
to the first California Supreme Court opinions in March 1850 (six
months before California's admission to the Union).  Unfortunately, it
does not include any of the page numbers within an opinion, which
makes it impossible to generate an official pinpoint citation.


&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.findlaw.com/cacases/index.html"&gt;California
Case Law&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;This page at &lt;code&gt;findlaw.com&lt;/code&gt; is free but requires
registration.  It provides published opinions back to 1934, and
includes the official page numbers.

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/rules/"&gt;California Rules of
Court&lt;/a&gt; (from &lt;code&gt;courtinfo.ca.gov&lt;/code&gt;)

&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7998609517132732266-2124405536525506826?l=eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default/2124405536525506826'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7998609517132732266/posts/default/2124405536525506826'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://eclipse-vs-does.blogspot.com/2008/05/motion-to-quash-subpoena-to-be-heard_19.html' title='Motion to quash subpoena to be heard June 6 by Judge Manoukian'/><author><name>Al Petrofsky</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00521212742095753420</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7998609517132732266.post-8734458732230265519</id><published>2008-05-01T22:04:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-02T11:43:55.908-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The initial filings in the Eclipse Aviation vs. Does case</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;The primary subject matter of this blog is &lt;i&gt;Eclipse Aviation Corporation v. John Doe et al.&lt;/i&gt;, No. D-202-CV-2008-02624, New Mexico Second Judicial District Court, Bernalillo County, filed March 18, 2008.  &lt;p&gt;I'm not sure that there will ever be more than one or two entries in this blog.  I created it mostly just to have a place to post some documents I had obtained that I wanted to share with anyone else who was interested in the case.  I first threw them into a directory under my &lt;code&gt;petrofsky.org&lt;/code&gt; domain, but I thought I should also make them available through an URL that's easier to spell and remember.  A blogspot URL seemed appropriate for this case.  &lt;p&gt;I would like to start by giving a summary of the plaintiff's complaint.  Unfortunately, the complaint is sealed, and all I really know about it is that the &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-docket-as-of-2008-05-01.pdf"&gt;case information from the court's website&lt;/a&gt; lists the causes of action as "Breach of Contract" and "Injunction - Not Contract/Tort".  I believe the order sealing the complaint is a public document, and I imagine it gives at least a cursory reason for the sealing, but I have not seen that order yet.  &lt;p&gt;The main document that I &lt;em&gt;have&lt;/em&gt; seen is the &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-subpoena.pdf"&gt;"Deposition Subpoena for Production of Business Records"&lt;/a&gt; that was issued on April 14, 2008 from California Superior Court, Santa Clara County, under case number 1-08-CV-110380.   &lt;p&gt;The subpoena seeks:  &lt;blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Subscriber, Poster or Member information and details from the Web Log (BLOG) account of ECLIPSE AVIATION CRITIC NG (HTTP://WWW.ECLIPSECRITICNG.BLOGSPOT.COM/) for the individual or individuals using the posting identity/identities of [... a list of twenty-eight different aliases ...] including, but not limited to: first name, last name, zip code, and email address given when registering the account and also any and all records pertaining to user login information including, but not limited to: all remote IP addresses with corresponding dates and times logged by your system on each occurrence of the account being accessed, and remote IP address, date and time logged by your system when the account was created and all other information pertaining to the account in the custody of Google, Inc. and/or Blogger.com.  &lt;p&gt;(&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-subpoena.pdf"&gt;Deposition subpoena&lt;/a&gt;, at attachment 3)  &lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Oddly, the deponent at whom the subpoena is directed is not the well-known legal person named Google Inc. (&lt;a href="https://sos-res.state.de.us/tin/GINameSearch.jsp"&gt;Delaware corporation&lt;/a&gt; #3582691), but is, instead, "Google Legal Support, Blogger CMCA [sic] Complaints":  &lt;blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;a title="An odd deponent" href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-subpoena-deponent.png"&gt;&lt;img src="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-subpoena-deponent.png" style="width:67ex; height:5.4ex"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;This wording is apparently traceable to the page at &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/blogger_dmca.html"&gt;&lt;code&gt;google.com/blogger_dmca.html&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, which says that Digital Millennium Copyright Act notices (a category of documents to which this subpoena clearly does not belong) should be sent to "Google, Inc., Attn: Google Legal Support, Blogger DMCA Complaints".  &lt;p&gt;The other documents on file in Santa Clara are the &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-Storey-declaration.pdf"&gt;"Declaration of Angela F. Storey in Support of Order to Issue Subpoena in California For Action Outside State"&lt;/a&gt; (dated April 14) and the attached &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-2008-04-10-commission.pdf"&gt;"Commission to Issue and/or Obtain Subpoena in California"&lt;/a&gt; (dated April 10) from the New Mexico Court.  &lt;p&gt;There was almost a month's delay from when the case was opened (on March 18) until the California subpoena was issued (on April 14), and you can see that this was partly because Eclipse's New Mexico counsel first served Google with a New Mexico subpoena and was apparently surprised to learn that that wasn't going to get him anywhere.  As Eclipse's California counsel declares:  &lt;blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;3. On or about March 21, 2008 ECLIPSE'S New Mexico attorney, David T. Thuma of Jacobvitz, Thuma &amp;amp; Walker, P.C., issued a subpoena to Google, Inc. located in Mountain View, California, Santa Clara County.   &lt;p&gt;4. On or about March 26, 2008, Google, Inc. objected to the above subpoena on the grounds that said subpoena [was] not valid as it was not issued from the Santa Clara County Court.  &lt;p&gt;5. ECLIPSE thereafter retained this law firm as local counsel to assist in obtaining a subpoena from the Santa Clara County Superior Court.  &lt;p&gt;(&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-Storey-declaration.pdf"&gt;Storey Declaration&lt;/a&gt;, at page 2)  &lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Documents:  &lt;ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;New Mexico case: &lt;i&gt;ECLIPSE AVIATION CORPORATION, a Delaware Corporation vs. JOHN DOE; JANE DOE; And various other unknown individuals designated VARIOUS DOES&lt;/i&gt;, No. D-202-CV-2008-02624, SECOND JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT, COUNTY OF BERNALILLO, STATE OF NEW MEXICO  &lt;ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-docket-as-of-2008-05-01.pdf"&gt;Docket listing, as of May 1, 2008&lt;/a&gt;   &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-NM-2008-04-10-commission.pdf"&gt;"Commission to Issue and/or Obtain Subpoena in California"&lt;/a&gt;, filed April 10, 2008  &lt;/ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;California case: &lt;i&gt;ECLIPSE AVIATION CORPORATION, a Delaware Corporation vs. JOHN DOE; JANE DOE; and various other unknown individuals designated VARIOUS DOES, and DOES 1 through 500&lt;/i&gt;, No. 1-08-CV-110380, SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA, SANTA CLARA COUNTY  &lt;ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-cover-sheet.pdf"&gt;"Civil Case Cover Sheet"&lt;/a&gt;, dated April 14, 2008  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-Storey-declaration.pdf"&gt;"Declaration of Angela F. Storey in Support of Order to Issue Subpoena in California For Action Outside State"&lt;/a&gt;, dated April 14, 2008  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/Eclipse/Eclipse-vs-Does-CA-2008-04-14-subpoena.pdf"&gt;"Deposition Subpoena for Production of Business Records"&lt;/a&gt;, dated April 14, 2008   &lt;/ul&gt;  &lt;/ul&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Links:  &lt;ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Plaintiff: &lt;a href="http://eclipseaviation.com"&gt;Eclipse Aviation (&lt;code&gt;eclipseaviation.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Subpoena recipient: &lt;a href="http://google.com"&gt;Google Inc. (&lt;code&gt;google.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Blog specified in the subpoena: &lt;a href="http://eclipsecriticng.blogspot.com"&gt;Eclipse Aviation Critic NG (&lt;code&gt;eclipsecriticng.blogspot.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;li&gt;New Mexico counsel for Plaintiff:  &lt;a href="http://www.jtwlawfirm.com/"&gt;Jacobvitz Thuma &amp;amp; Walker PC (&lt;code&gt;jtwlawfirm.com&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;;  &lt;ul&gt;   &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jtwlawfirm.com/thuma.htm"&gt;David Tenbroeck Thuma&lt;/a&gt; (first bar admission: &lt;a href="http://www.in.gov/judiciary/cofc/roll-atty.html"&gt;Indiana&lt;/a&gt;, #2200-49, admitted 1984)  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jtwlawfirm.com/jacobvitz.htm"&gt;Robert H. Jacobvitz&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href="http://www.nmbar.org/findattorney/attorneyfinder.aspx"&gt;New Mexico Bar&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 1979)  &lt;/ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;California counsel for Plaintiff:  &lt;a href="http://millermorton.com/"&gt;Miller Morton Caillat &amp;amp; Nevis (&lt;code&gt;millermorton.com&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;)   &lt;ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://millermorton.com/attorneys/afs.html"&gt;Angela Foster Storey&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href="http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_detail.aspx?x=217942"&gt;California Bar #217942&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 2001)  &lt;/ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Florida counsel (according to news reports) for potential movants whose aliases are listed in the subpoena: Norman Malinski (&lt;a href="http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/MESearch"&gt;Florida Bar&lt;/a&gt; #182344, admitted 1974)  &lt;li&gt;Judge assigned to New Mexico case: &lt;a href="http://www.nmcourts.com/seconddistrictcourt/judges2.html"&gt;Hon. Linda M. Vanzi&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href="http://www.votevanzi.com"&gt;&lt;code&gt;votevanzi.com&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;) (&lt;a href="http://www.nmbar.org/findattorney/attorneyfinder.aspx"&gt;New Mexico Bar&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 1995; appointed to bench in 2004)    &lt;li&gt;New Mexico court case information: &lt;a href="http://www.nmcourts.gov/caselookup"&gt;&lt;code&gt;http://www.nmcourts.gov/caselookup&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;li&gt;California court case information:  &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://sccaseinfo.org/pa5.asp?full_case_number=1-08-CV-110380"&gt;&lt;code&gt;http://sccaseinfo.org/pa5.asp?full_case_number=1-08-CV-110380&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://sccaseinfo.org/pa5.asp?process_name=process_calendar_case_number&amp;amp;end_date=3000&amp;amp;case_number=108CV110380"&gt;&lt;code&gt;http://sccaseinfo.org/pa5.asp?process_name= &lt;br&gt;process_calendar_case_number&amp;amp;end_date=3000&amp;amp;case_number=108CV110380&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/ul&gt;  The latter page doesn't show any information right now.  However, if and when a motion to quash is filed, this is the page that would show the department number of the judge who has been assigned to hear the motion.  The motion would likely be assigned to Department 7, Judge Socrates Peter Manoukian (&lt;a href="http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_search.aspx?ms=Socrates+Manoukian"&gt;California Bar #77289&lt;/a&gt;, admitted 1977; appointed to bench in 1993), who normally hears all civil discovery matters.  (See &lt;a href="http://www.sccsuperiorcourt.org/civil/Dept7rulings.htm"&gt;&lt;code&gt;http://www.sccsuperiorcourt.org/civil/Dept7rulings.htm&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.) Two years ago, Judge Manoukian heard a motion to quash a subpoena in a case that had several similarities to &lt;i&gt;Eclipse vs. Does&lt;/i&gt;.  He denied the motion, but the subpoena was ultimately withdrawn anyway. You can find most of the story of that case in the published opinion &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe-CA-appeal-2007-05-31-unsealing-opinion.pdf"&gt;&lt;i&gt;H.B. Fuller v. Doe&lt;/i&gt;, 151 Cal.App.4th 879&lt;/a&gt; (May 31, 2007).  I've put some other documents from that case in the directory at &lt;a href="http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/"&gt;&lt;code&gt;http://petrofsky.org/misc/legal-docs/H-B-Fuller-vs-Doe/&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. 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